m400, windows failure to load

[Fueler1]

Yeah, I have been reading through all that and trying this and that with no joy so far. Craps out at 25%.
My efforts so far.
I made an ISO and had the Rufus app convert to USB. that went smooth but same result.
Here are my settings in case I overlooked something.

I then tried some win 101 stuff from the command line with limited success. Likely because win10 was not totally happy yet.
Did a scannow and since windows is not happy I get an error. Online fixes assume windows is working.

Did a chkdsk. Found something so on to step fix

Chkdsk fix was not happy, bringing me back to step 1. Is it possible to unprotect it from the command line?

I also tried msconfig which went nowhere.

I looked around the EUFI hoping there was a SSD test in there but nope.

Thanks everyone for your patience.

[Centroid_Jacob]

New USB, did long format on it, loaded windows, safe unload.
No joy, same result.
Next Idea?

Tom is correct about there being threads online dedicated to this issue, some fixed with a new hard drive or new RAM stick, others fixed by changing BIOS settings, another solution mentioned was limiting the partition to 110 GBs manually. A multitude of solutions and non-solutions out there.

I would start with the partition size, I saw that a few different times as a solution.

You start the installation process again, then when it gets to the screen you posted before but without the message:

Delete all the partitions, select "Drive 0 Unallocated Space" again but this time click on the "New" button. It will ask for a size, enter 112640. This should create a partition that is 110 GB large. You should get a message about Windows creating additional partitions, that is normal. Once done, click "Next," Windows should continue as before. With a little luck, that might get Windows 10 installed.

This solution and more are listed here: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... f07fdad505 see Macca's answer about half way down the page.

We could spend all day hunting for different things to try but start here please.


Edit: Rufus settings look good to me. SFC /scannow looks like it scanned the USB drive, which passed verification but failed on additional runs, that should be alright. Same with chkdsk, it should be scanning the flash drive which is currently read-only because of being imaged by Rufus. I believe those results are expected from my testing in a Virtual Machine.

[Fueler1]

Allrighty then. It was a long day and late night but victory was achieved. Some minor windows cleanup/preferences to finish.

Having concluded that this was a software/usb problem it became a quest.
It took 4 more times of USB formatting, producing the ISO and rufus conversion before I achieved 100% installation.
I have carpal now due to typing in that license number uncountable times.

I think the real problem was some sketchy used USBs. I have quite a few around here and they are cheapies picked up in 4 packs at the checkout counter.
My recommendation for the future is to purchase a new name brand USB Tdrive for the fussy windows installation.

Thanks Tom, Jacob and Marc for your patient assistance. Heroes all.

I am walking away from it for a couple of days so as not to disturb the cosmos.

I have attached a current file in case someone sees something weird or off.

report_0008DC111213-0416151269_2024-09-18_07-59-03.zip

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[Fueler1]

The honeymoon was short lived.

The blank screen is back.
A reboot shows the no signal message, a white line flashes by, then nothing.
No access to bios by any means.
Removed cmos battery, waited an hour, resinstalled. no joy
Will not boot from windows installer usb.
sigh

[cncsnw]

Does the cooling fan on the CPU chip / heat sink, on the motherboard, run without interference?

In your 9/15/24 picture, it looks like the ATX 12V power wire may be uncomfortably close to interfering with the fan blades.

If the CPU fan is prevented from running, then you would expect the motherboard to shut itself back down after a short time.

[Fueler1]

It's not quite as bad as it looks. fan is running.
Side shot

[Fueler1]

Walked away for a few days.
Is there a flow chart for diagnosing which component is or has failed?

[Fueler1]

I looked through my pdf files as well as on Centroid site and failed to find what I need.
I need a schematic and/or a picture book of what attaches where inside the M400 console.

[cncsnw]

I do not have time, or enough information, to draw a picture or diagram of the connections in your M400 console.

Maybe a text description will be useful.

I am fairly certain your console has a micro-ATX motherboard, with a second ethernet adapter in an add-in card.

Connections to the motherboard:
- 24-pin ATX power connector from the power supply
- 4-pin 12V ATX power connector from the power supply
- SATA hard drive control cable, to the solid-state hard drive
- Keyboard (PS2 or USB cable to keyboard in tray)
- VGA (15-pin plug, short cable leading to the built-in LCD display board)
- USB extensions to the external USB ports on the side of the console
- Possibly an RS232 serial extension to an external 9-pin serial port on the side of the console
- Ethernet cable from the on-board ethernet adapter, to the Allin1DC unit in the cabinet
- Possibly an ethernet extension cable from the add-in ethernet adapter to a port on the side of the console

Connections to the power supply:
- 120VAC input cord
- 24-pin ATX motherboard power connector, to motherboard
- 4-pin ATX 12V connector to motherboard
- 5-wire SATA power plug to solid-state hard drive
- 4-wire power plug to 12V pigtail, for the LCD controller board
- 4-wire power plug to supply 12V to the console-back fan

Connections to the LCD controller board:
- 15-pin VGA signal cord from the motherboard
- 5.5mm barrel-type 12V power plug (pigtail adapter from 4-wire plug from power supply)
- two or three fine-wire harnesses or ribbon cables to the LCD panel and backlight (varies by model)

The following picture shows some of those connections on an M39 motherboard assembly that is slightly newer than yours, but which has the same general layout.

In addition to the motherboard and power supply connections described above, you will have:
- 8-position 6-wire plug to the "CPU10" header on the back of the jog panel keypad
- two 2-wire in-line plugs to the emergency stop pushbutton pigtails
- a 3-wire in-line plug for the 120VAC line cord going to the power supply
- a cable leading to the 28-pin receptacle for the MPG handwheel pendant in the side of the console

[Fueler1]

UPDATE
I was advised that the best course of action was to install this>
CNC11 Micro ATX to Mini PC Upgrade for CNC12 (#14532)
It is my understanding that it came preset along with my latest report installed.

I spent the afternoon switching it all out.
I followed the instructions and photos step by step.
It was pretty straight forward as the wiring is mostly idiot proof.
There were no followup instructions so I took a leap of faith and fired it up. No smoke was expelled.
After a couple of blinks all I get is a white screen.
The cat cable from the allinone to the nuc is blinking indicating traffic I assume.

I dropped Centroid a note but I realize everyone is on holiday so I dropped it here also.