Updating to 5.30 another disaster

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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Post by lavrgs »

Let's put a time stamp in... The update started June 28 th and today is July 9th. I only have so much patience to do this kind of stuff . It either works or it doesn't, if I have to spend time researching how to make it right I feel like not fully tested software is a hassle and I'm the Guinea pig


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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Post by suntravel »

In this time I have tested several updates for beta testing on two full customized machines with Acorn6....

I cannot read what your problem really is here?

I just use NP++ to compare the VCP skin and PLC after an update to redo any custom editing if it is needed.

Uwe


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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

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Uwe, it makes a difference whether you have an Acorn or Oak control unit. Oak owners have to pay money for a modified plc. Acorn users get the modified plc for free. Every update of the software will overwrite the plc and then the madness begins.


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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

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Houseman303 wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:25 pm Uwe, it makes a difference whether you have an Acorn or Oak control unit. Oak owners have to pay money for a modified plc. Acorn users get the modified plc for free. Every update of the software will overwrite the plc and then the madness begins.
...Or ALLIN1DC...7/20/25 time stamp...


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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Post by suntravel »

Houseman303 wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:25 pm Uwe, it makes a difference whether you have an Acorn or Oak control unit. Oak owners have to pay money for a modified plc. Acorn users get the modified plc for free. Every update of the software will overwrite the plc and then the madness begins.

Free is only what comes out of the wizard, beyond this you have to pay also if Centroid is making custom changes.

But we all have the option to read the PLC manual and DIY for free.

Uwe


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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

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Houseman303 wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:25 pm Uwe, it makes a difference whether you have an Acorn or Oak control unit. Oak owners have to pay money for a modified plc. Acorn users get the modified plc for free. Every update of the software will overwrite the plc and then the madness begins.
with any oak cnc12 install you have a choice to install on top of the existing installation or start fresh. sounds like you guys are mixing the two methods together.

i recommend renaming the old working directory of cnc12 and get back to a running machine. as you know it is trivial to simply rename the cncm directory to run any installation of CNC12 new or old. so get back to a running install of CNC12 that you were happy with. copy that entire directory out to a thumb drive and label it in a folder for safe keeping. now run the CNC12 installer on the CNC PC and choose to install on top of the existing installation. this will retain your PLC program and parameters. now if you want to use a new feature that has parameter(s) or plc code associated with it you simply configure the parameters correctly and or add the PLC logic you want and compile. or you can do nothing if you don't want to need any new features that require parameters or plc logic to be set.

and its not true that Acorn user get custom PLC mods for free. or anything custom for that matter.
Need support? READ THIS POST first. http://centroidcncforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1043
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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Post by cnckeith »

lavrgs wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:24 pm If you could make it so it was as easy as going backward to go forward you may have something... (explatives deleted)
going backward and forward is as simple as renaming the c:\cncm directories that have been backed up to cncm
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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

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cnckeith wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:10 pm
lavrgs wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:24 pm If you could make it so it was as easy as going backward to go forward you may have something... (explatives deleted)
going backward and forward is as simple as renaming the c:\cncm directories that have been backed up to cncm
Ahhh if you assume it went forward properly....


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Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

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the installer makes a backup for you during the install.
Need support? READ THIS POST first. http://centroidcncforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1043
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