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Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:30 am
by CHAOTiC WAYz
home built plasma table with centroid acorn pro
currently running x axis test and pairing without the gantry being attached. only the two side arms with motors.
one is axis 1 the other is slave. before pairing, both sides moved in the negative direction and homed off of the home switches correctly.
when trying to pair them, the motors moved in the positive direction, even though the home switches are in the minus direction. the macro ran correctly with the m105 command being sent correctly. What would cause it to run in the wrong direction if the settings are set to run homing in the minus direction?
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:37 am
by tblough
Please see this post
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1043 so we have enough information to help you.
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 am
by swissi
CHAOTiC WAYz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:30 am
home built plasma table with centroid acorn pro
currently running x axis test and pairing without the gantry being attached. only the two side arms with motors.
one is axis 1 the other is slave. before pairing, both sides moved in the negative direction and homed off of the home switches correctly.
when trying to pair them, the motors moved in the positive direction, even though the home switches are in the minus direction. the macro ran correctly with the m105 command being sent correctly. What would cause it to run in the wrong direction if the settings are set to run homing in the minus direction?
Can you show a picture of your machine and mark the position from where you are operating it? In CNC definition, the X axis moves from left to right from the operators position and the Y axis goes from front to back. You mentioned that the gantry arms are on the side and that would mean the gantry arms are moving along the Y axis not the X axis. If you want the gantry arms to move along the X axis, then the arms would be in front and back and should move from left to right from the position you are operating the machine.
-swissi
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:21 pm
by CHAOTiC WAYz
swissi wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:19 am
CHAOTiC WAYz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:30 am
home built plasma table with centroid acorn pro
currently running x axis test and pairing without the gantry being attached. only the two side arms with motors.
one is axis 1 the other is slave. before pairing, both sides moved in the negative direction and homed off of the home switches correctly.
when trying to pair them, the motors moved in the positive direction, even though the home switches are in the minus direction. the macro ran correctly with the m105 command being sent correctly. What would cause it to run in the wrong direction if the settings are set to run homing in the minus direction?
Can you show a picture of your machine and mark the position from where you are operating it? In CNC definition, the X axis moves from left to right from the operators position and the Y axis goes from front to back. You mentioned that the gantry arms are on the side and that would mean the gantry arms are moving along the Y axis not the X axis. If you want the gantry arms to move along the X axis, then the arms would be in front and back and should move from left to right from the position you are operating the machine.
-swissi
We define the x axis as the long travel in this case. its all about how you look at your machine .
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:49 pm
by swissi
CHAOTiC WAYz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:21 pm
... its all about how you look at your machine .
Exactly and that can change which direction is plus and which is minus.
If you want any advise you need to provide more information and follow the post from Tom above.
-swissi
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:59 pm
by tblough
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=3638 and this thread will show you which is the correct positive direction.
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:08 pm
by cncsnw
In the OP's defense, he did state pretty clearly that he had two servos moving in the expected direction when homing, and said that when he enabled pairing (and, we are to understand, changed nothing else) found that these servos now wanted to move the opposite direction when homing. He is not asking for advice figuring out which axis is X and which is Y, or figuring out which direction is plus and which direction is minus.
However, the first place I would look for an explanation of the issue would be in the cncm.hom macro. That would be found in the Report files.
Then I would look to see what values he has in the Machine Configuration -> Motor Parameters table. That would also be shown in the Report files.
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:58 am
by martyscncgarage
The original poster needs to understand that we can not "SEE" what he "SEES"
We are making assumptions based on what he posted.
If he follows the post that Tom pointed to, he would give us the information that will allow us to better give him suggestions.
I AM SUPER HAPPY TO HELP ANYONE THAT WILL TAKE THE TIME TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION REQUESTED. My time sitting in front of the computer is as valuable as anyone else's. But I will not second guess based on vague information provided.
Kind of like going to the Doctor and saying "I'm sick"....and the the doctor having to ask a bunch of questions like "Where does it hurt?"
Sorry for being scarcastic. But it is the truth.
If nothing else, THE NUMBER 1 CARDINAL RULE when asking for help is to POST A FRESH REPORT!
F7 Utilities
F7 Create Report
The report contains all the information about the machine, parameters, how everything is configured, what version of CNC12 is being run, error logs etc. If a user will take the time to post the report, usually I will take the time to load it on my bench test rig and take a look at it and post screen shots of suggestions that might help.
Here is my Post on the subject:
viewtopic.php?f=60&t=3539
Users helping other users also don't want to give poor suggestions either....
Respectfully,
Marty
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:20 pm
by CHAOTiC WAYz
I wont be back to the machine until Tuesday
Re: Acorn help homing direction and pairing
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:05 pm
by cnckeith