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Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:14 pm
by lavrgs
It never goes well!!!
I lost all the Customization of my PLC and the Skin has none of the changes I made
My best move is always to go backwards!!!

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:24 pm
by lavrgs
If you could make it so it was as easy as going backward to go forward you may have something... (explatives deleted)

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:23 pm
by suntravel
lavrgs wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:24 pm If you could make it so it was as easy as going backward to go forward you may have something... (explatives deleted)
This is the reason to make backups....

I am using the compare plugin in NP++ to reenter custom changes in the PLC and VCP.

Uwe

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:35 pm
by lavrgs
I upgrade about once or twice a year so it always new. The latest update instructions 5/25 are incomplete…I was asked if I want to replace existing files and said “yes” maybe the correct answer is NO…but once again it’s not a clearly defined process.
Following instructions to not replace the PLC didn’t seem to work and I lost my custom vcp… nothing in the instructions to address that…
Do you think with the new license fees the support staff will stick around on weekends or will they be off in their new motorhomes…😁

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:46 pm
by lavrgs
I tried a second time - The problems are NO VCP and an error message about undefined PLC

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:30 pm
by lavrgs
I started over ...again from the V5.06 working directory and was able to complete the install - Fixed the VCP problem and I corrected VCP to look and function as before. I copied the old MCP.PLU file.. and it made the WMPG operate as it was before. Does copying the old MPU.plc cause other issues or is this step normal?. and how do I get it to upgrade to the proper one in the first place?
I used the option the leave the current configuration...
Now I have to upgrade the dreaded Acorn...9-(

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:33 pm
by glbreil
Lavrgs, my understanding from Marc is that if you use the old mpu.plc that you don't get any of the new features, but you would get whatever bug fixes are in the new software version. That is what I opted to do, because I didn't really care about the new stuff I was just after a couple fixes. I made a new report, changed the name on my cnct folder, installed 5.30 and as soon as it finished I opened it and restored the report from the new report I made. I have version 5.30, and everything works like it did before, but the only way to get all the new features is to merge the old PLC and new PLC which requires going line by line and identifying what is part of your customized stuff and moving it over. Now that it is done I might play with it a little, but I really doubt I am really PLC savvy enough to accomplish it. Gary

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:51 pm
by lavrgs
I'll take a look... I renamed the new mpu.plc...Copying the new stuff to the old plc can be done with either Winmerge or with Notepad++ and the Compare add in. This will show the differences between the two files. My minimal plc editing involved getting the macro buttons on the wmpg to open and close the collet...now I'd like to have the wmpg set Z and X zero...

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:59 pm
by glbreil
Yeah I have looked at using compare on Notepad++. but mine is so different that I get lost in the very first section of Constant Definitions, they are even close to matching and the new PLC is using the same numbers as the old with different definitions any a whole lot of cases, which means at least in my case it really isn't a very simple task, or at least it doesn't look like it.

Re: Updating to 5.30 another disaster

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:36 pm
by lavrgs
My child-like understanding is that the MPU.PLC is ONE file that is the result of compiling the X.src file. That would be the starting point for comparison...gotta go...