Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

Post by Skunk »

Parameter 16 – Maximum Probing Distance

This was 0, changed to 1 and got Auto Measurement moving. Still not understanding this, but making progress.

Need to figure out the whole Ref tool thing. Do I just set one tool up then everything else goes off it? This being a Hardinge Turret I cannot see having a tool that will always be in one pl;ace in space when ever I need it. (Like I do with measuring Z on the mill)


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Sorry, I missed that one in your report. Search distance can't be zero or otherwise it will not move hahaha.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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centroid467 wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:11 pm Sorry, I missed that one in your report. Search distance can't be zero or otherwise it will not move hahaha.
I would think that parameter 16 would be good to place in the list of required parameters under 5.13 TT-2 and TT-4 Parameters in that centroid-cnc12-lathe-operator-manual.pdf


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Got all excited to measure some tools. Hit Turret Index button and watched the turret spin like a top, stopping after 1 full revolution with the error FAULT Index Timeout.
This worked fine prior to installing CNC12 V5.30

Tried installing previous report files...no luck yet.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Seems I have a sticky valve or solenoid...found a wire that looks suspect, though it carry some current as I could test continuity. The turret is not lifting. Will report my findings.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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My type2 took over after lunch...spent the afternoon in one of my mini comas.
Ran out to the i shop after I woke up.

Looked at things again. Considered rewiring the Clippard...needed to move the carriage so I
booted the control up and moved it. Then just for fun decided to try the turret again. Damn thing is working again. Decided to button things back up. Probably going to bite me, but I will tackle that another day if it pops up again.

Working on recovering all the changes I had made on the Parameters.

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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Got the tools measured.

Decided to cut a 3/8-16 thread for my first project.

Perky jerky....slowed things down they cut...better....then as the toolbit was coming out towards Z Home it stopped. I then tried moving from the pendant. Nothing was moving. No spindle, no axis movement.

Decided to restart the control.

Got this error
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I chose F1


Now I still have no Spindle or axis.

Done for the night.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Those messages mean that the Allin1DC reported it found three additional PLCAD1616 boards connected (but just their output sections, apparently).

Since we can reasonably assume that you did not plug in three additional boards, then either the Allin1DC is malfunctioning, or CNC12 is receiving corrupt communications from the Allin1DC.

Since you answered F1/Continue Anyway, CNC12 will have recorded (in the mpu_info.txt file) that those three additional boards are expected. Next time you power up, if it returns to normal operation, you will get a similar (but reversed) set of warning messages, saying that those three additional boards are no longer present. Answer F1/Continue again.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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cncsnw wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:43 pm Those messages mean that the Allin1DC reported it found three additional PLCAD1616 boards connected (but just their output sections, apparently).

Since we can reasonably assume that you did not plug in three additional boards, then either the Allin1DC is malfunctioning, or CNC12 is receiving corrupt communications from the Allin1DC.

Since you answered F1/Continue Anyway, CNC12 will have recorded (in the mpu_info.txt file) that those three additional boards are expected. Next time you power up, if it returns to normal operation, you will get a similar (but reversed) set of warning messages, saying that those three additional boards are no longer present. Answer F1/Continue again.
Do you think this has anything to do with having lost the ability to move the Z/X axis and not able to spin the spindle?


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

Post by cncsnw »

Maybe.

When the control is malfunctioning so that it cannot accurately tell what hardware is connected, then you are in uncharted territory. It is impossible to guess which other parts of the system will somehow continue to function correctly, and which ones won't.


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