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Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:24 am
by martyscncgarage
Pictures are worth a thousand words, videos a priceless.
Show how the machine homes and demonstrate you setting your part zero
Show you pressing F8 to graph the part before running the job so we can see the error.
Upload the video to YouTube, setting unlisted and share the link here
Marty
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:17 am
by BillB
Ok guys here are the supporting docs and info you requested.
I changed the WCS to G54 I did not realize i was set to wCS #18.
After that WCS change I did, however, manage to get tool 1 (master tool) to cut the part but when it changes to tool 3 (cut off tool #3) it errors out again with the same exceeding travel error.
I also make a couple of other changes to the part Zs from my 1st post and changed a couple of tool offsets hopefully this will not be an issue as Im still getting the error.
I went over this with you guys in the past and provided a video on it. just to confirm can someone tell me if my axis set up in wizard is set up correctly? Just want to make sure. as you can see machine homes to the right and down with limit switches next to the stepper motors.
lmk if a video is still needed, doing a video is pretty involved but will do it if you guys really need it.
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:13 am
by tblough
Since you say you've made changes to the tool offsets and WCS, please post a new report as well so we also have the new settings.
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:27 am
by suntravel
You have about 24" difference in X offsets, but the largest crosslide from sherline is 13"
Uwe
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:52 pm
by cncsnw
The X offset values displayed on the Tool Library screen are diameter amounts (twice the amount of axis movement).
For what it's worth, when X offsets are listed in a Report file, they are radius amounts (actual axis movement).
Tools that are 12" apart on a gang tool setup should have a 24" difference in offsets, as displayed on the Tool Library screen.
Nonetheless, it is likely that the remaining issues still relate to setting X axis part zero and measuring tool X offsets.
Bill: you can "test drive" your part zero and tool offset settings in MDI. For example:
... then jog the axes from one software limit to the other, and see what DRO positions you can reach with tool #1, and note whether the DRO positions accurately reflect the distance from part zero (spindle centerline, face of stock).
Then switch to a different tool and offsets:
... and jog that tool to the limits, and also to part zero, and see what the DRO says.
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:02 pm
by BillB
suntravel wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:27 am
You have about 24" difference in X offsets, but the largest crosslide from sherline is 13"
Uwe
The chucker lathe is offered with optional 18” base and 18” x slide and this is the machine I have.
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:16 pm
by BillB
cncsnw wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:52 pm
The X offset values displayed on the Tool Library screen are diameter amounts (twice the amount of axis movement).
For what it's worth, when X offsets are listed in a Report file, they are radius amounts (actual axis movement).
Tools that are 12" apart on a gang tool setup should have a 24" difference in offsets, as displayed on the Tool Library screen.
Nonetheless, it is likely that the remaining issues still relate to setting X axis part zero and measuring tool X offsets.
Bill: you can "test drive" your part zero and tool offset settings in MDI. For example:
... then jog the axes from one software limit to the other, and see what DRO positions you can reach with tool #1, and note whether the DRO positions accurately reflect the distance from part zero (spindle centerline, face of stock).
Then switch to a different tool and offsets:
... and jog that tool to the limits, and also to part zero, and see what the DRO says.
here's a new report
"I think" what is going on here is when I make changes to my offsets (or redue them) the values are not changing. I realized this last night. I can't even Zero them out when selecting, highlighting and hitting delate OR 0 the values stay the same as the current values? IS there a setting somewhere I have accidentally set to not allow changes ???
The only tools I'm trying to get dialed in RN is #1 #3 to do a simple profile and cut off opp. I've changed offsets on T3 several times and my offset is currently 14.7218 when the physical measured (with a tape measure is about 11.875? from my master tool. The fact that it should be almost 24 inches is one thing but my numbers are off by about 2.84 inches or so. What is going on here?
Why can't I zero out my offset fields?
and why are my offset fields not changing?
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:32 pm
by cncsnw
Press F4 to switch the manual entry mode from Incremental to Absolute.
This not only affects manually-entered offset values, but it also affects the values you enter for the X Reference Diameter before measuring offsets.
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:53 am
by BillB
cncsnw wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:32 pm
Press F4 to switch the manual entry mode from Incremental to Absolute.
This not only affects manually-entered offset values, but it also affects the values you enter for the X Reference Diameter before measuring offsets.
Ok that helped I
was in incremental mode I had no idea. I will read up on that but what is the difference? I Redid all my part and tool offsets and resolved the exceeding travel errors, so that's good. BUT have a question on setting X offset reference. Are you only supposed to set the X reference offset for the master tool??? OR set it for each tool? I've gone through the same steps with 3 tools and when setting the X offset reference its now changed to the last tool I defined and all 3 tools have that same X reference offset Shouldedt each tool have its own X (Reference) offset as it is set based on your skim cut Dia?
Re: Exceeding travel
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:16 pm
by BillB
Can someone address my question from the above post?
Is each tools X Di offset supposed to display in the lower left of the offset page (X diameter) when selected? OR is that referring ONLY to the master tool?