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Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:29 pm
by cnckeith
suntravel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:28 am
Coolant and max. rpm for Intercon is skipped?
Uwe
double click on any tool and another window pops up for those that want to link coolant , rpm and direction with the tool
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:30 pm
by cnckeith
suntravel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:58 pm
Or Diameter setting with Renishaw TS27 or Laser like often used on professional VMCs....
Uwe
Corbin can write the app for that!

Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:31 pm
by cnckeith
cncsnw wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:49 pm
Now would probably be a good time to research the different types of drill banks and panel saws found on production router tables.
There will usually be an XY offset.
Drill banks may or may not have a solenoid output for 90-degree rotation (align with X or align with Y).
Drill banks may be all-or-none, or may have individually-selectable drills.
A panel saw may or may not have a solenoid output for 90-degree rotation.
There are probably lots of other variations that I have not yet encountered....
Yeah! i've got drill bank basics written up will post
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:33 pm
by cnckeith
grossmsj wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:44 am
I like it!
I really like the consideration and provision for diode laser as a tool. A couple of questions in that regard:
1) Will that particular tool number be set, much as #10 is for a probe? < yes, that's the idea>
2) The offset for the laser caught my attention. I really like that. Which leads to my last question.
3) Consider that some of us use multiple laser heads (I have three). I don't know how to handle that, but it might be worth considering in the design phase. < yep we have several ideas on how best to handle this, one way is to add to G52 and have G52.2, G52.3, G52.4 etc..>
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:39 pm
by suntravel
cnckeith wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:30 pm
suntravel wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:58 pm
Or Diameter setting with Renishaw TS27 or Laser like often used on professional VMCs....
Uwe
Corbin can write the app for that!
Already incuded in swissis CHIPS
But that did not help even a decent Chinese Laser is 3000 bucks
Uwe
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:31 pm
by cnckeith
cncsnw wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:49 pm
Now would probably be a good time to research the different types of drill banks and panel saws found on production router tables.
There will usually be an XY offset.
Drill banks may or may not have a solenoid output for 90-degree rotation (align with X or align with Y).
Drill banks may be all-or-none, or may have individually-selectable drills.
A panel saw may or may not have a solenoid output for 90-degree rotation.
There are probably lots of other variations that I have not yet encountered....
what is the most common mechanical drill bank deployment scheme? I've seen all of these methods below being used,
i'm trying to get an idea if one is more common/standard than the other.
1.) a main drill bank deploy/retract air slide and then individual drill deploy air slides, then move Z to drill
1a) a main drill bank uses a 2nd Z axis to deploy/retract and then individual drill deploy air slides, then move Z2 to drill
2.) individual drill deploy air slides, then move Z to drill (spindle is sometimes on its own air slide and retracts )
2a.) individual drill deploy air slides, then move Z2 to drill (spindle is on its own Z and retracts )
or did i leave out the most common?
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited < Mill and Router CNC12 Tool Library redesign >
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:24 pm
by cnckeith
double click on any tool # and the tool options menu appears. this is a UI draft proposal
Let me know if you'd like to see something here.
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited < Mill and Router CNC12 Tool Library redesign >
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:21 pm
by RogDC
Consider making the header row a different color than the alternating color of the tool rows to avoid two rows of the same color when you are scrolling the window.
Will the Auto Tool Measurement Option provide the option to touch off using the Touch Plate ( P540 ) or Tool Touch Off ( P044) ?
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited < Mill and Router CNC12 Tool Library redesign >
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:49 pm
by suntravel
This concept looks really good. I like the option to change the pictures for each tool.
Uwe
Re: Tool Library Description lengths seem to be limited < Mill and Router CNC12 Tool Library redesign >
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:53 pm
by corbin
@keith - the draft tool library management looks great! I'm curious how one would enter "no bin" to make it appear as "---"; does it just happen when you set the change to "Manual?" I'm currently using "0" as "manual tool change", or not in the rack.
I'll post some stuff about my app to the API section pretty soon! It is all open source, and currently is specific to Avid CNC.
https://github.com/corbinstreehouse/Cen ... lRackSetup