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Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:45 pm
by suntravel
This is completely ISO conform, bed moves in X left and right and in Z towards the spindle, the spindle moves from front to back in Y

Uwe

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:03 am
by tblough
"The Z axis is parallel to the principal spindle of the machine.
On machines used for milling, grinding, boring, drilling and tapping, the spindle rotates the tool.
On machines such as lathes, cylindrical grinders and others which generate a surface of revolution, the spindle
rotates the work piece."

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:04 am
by Black Forest
The Z axis is moving towards the spindle In Mr. R's setup. It is just that the spindle is mounted on an arm that moves perpendicular to the table's X axis. Uwe's video shows it perfectly.

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:50 am
by ruirosa
Hello
The machine is made in Switzerland.
In fact Suntravel is wright the machine table moves X(left and right) and Z (Up and down) the axis are not misslabeled is just the way the machine was build. There are Hundreds os this machines in Europe including Portugal, where I am.
If the axis move correctely with MDI I think is ISO conform when the table moves X (left ,right) Z (Up, down) and Y -Spindle axis moves against/ away from the operator) Honestly I cant find any error on this configuration.
Since the retrofiting with OAK controler and DMM servos is 95% done.
I would like to start making some tests with the already written programs using intercon MIll.
As posted before My problem is which is the better tool set method usig TT2.

Hoping to hear your inputs on this matter
Rui

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:14 am
by tblough
It's a nomenclature issue. The spindle is not moving in Y. The RAM is moving in and out in Y. The table moves up and down in Z inline with the spindle axis.

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:29 am
by ruirosa
Hello
No the Quill is fixed in the Y axis ( is not motorized) , the quill only moves in and out manualy if we need to drill anything manualy.
So this way which would be the bettter method to make the tool set hight set up with the TT2?
Regards
Rui

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:22 am
by Black Forest
Deleted. I had a brain fart. With the table moving up and down as the Z axis and not using a quill you would use the bed mill method. Sorry about that. Don't listen to me. Listen to Uwe. He knows what he is doing. Except in his wine preferences. Then don't listen to him! :lol:

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:11 am
by suntravel
with no quill in use and reliable z home, I prefer the Z Reference method.

Uwe

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:03 am
by lavrgs
My post is to clarify the required changes when going from using a master tool to probe - I am using Swissi's probe App.

I currently use T1 as my reference tool - it's a 4" 3/8 rod in a CAT40 holder. Knowing that my touch off tool is 1.451" at contact, I would change Parameter 3 to 6, set up gage blocks to 1.451 - touch off the probe to establish it's length. T1 had been set up as the longest tool, as of now my probe is considerably shorter, although I could move it to a CAT40 tool with longer offset.
- Is the the probe going to become T1? -I currently have the probe as T14
- When Probe App asks to re-establish the offset for the reference tool I assume I will still use the the gage blocks.

My goal would be to use the probe to establish the top of the stock, currently it is only used for X0 Y0
Based on the Parameter 3 change to 6, making Z home my reference, are there other changes that causes anything that I should be aware of?
I will go measure tool lengths as before - I would expect them not to change when re-measured. (EDIT)

Re: Using a probe as a reference tool

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:15 pm
by suntravel