Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Working on X- (8LS) and X+ (7LS) limit switches today. This lathe is equipped with the X home (9LS) switch but it is not hooked up. Looking at the drawings that came with the lathe it was not even called out. Well the yellow wire is called out, but go to an empty spot on the terminal block.

Anywho...X- is working fine. Hits the switch and travel in the minus direction stops as I would expect.

However, the X+ while it seems to be working in software, ie lamp on parameter 16 toggles when I manually toggle the switch, it does not stop the motion of the carriage.


added a video showing the messages when manipulating the switches by hand.
Any ideas for my next move?


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Ok, following the Centroid Hardinge Retrofit Manual rev 041104 I see I should be checking for limits and home to be set to 1 for Z-, 2 for Z+, 3 for X- and 4 for X+.

Not sure where to see this as referenced. If they mean Inputs 1 to 4 , I find them as inputs 13 to 16, which lines up with the parameter LEDs I see changing.

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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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I confirmed with a meter that I have continuity from the switch to the input, the LED confirms that, but wanted to make sure the wiring was correct.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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However, the X+ while it seems to be working in software, ie lamp on parameter 16 toggles when I manually toggle the switch, it does not stop the motion of the carriage.
Presuming you mean that INP16, on the Alt-i display, changes from Green to Red when you trip the X+ limit switch, then the next step is to make sure that you have entered "16" as the X+ limit input number, on the Machine Configuration -> Motor Parameters table.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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cncsnw wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:24 am
Presuming you mean that INP16, on the Alt-i display, changes from Green to Red when you trip the X+ limit switch, then the next step is to make sure that you have entered "16" as the X+ limit input number, on the Machine Configuration -> Motor Parameters table.

Yes that is what I meant. Thanks for the direction, will go take a peek and see what it has.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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Bingo! Thank you!!
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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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I see from the pic I did not have one of the X+ home was not set either. That took a few minutes to realize when I was trying to "set" home.


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Re: Hardinge HNC Reduex 2

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