Router - M6 Tool Change Macro M57/58 Dust Foot Question

[martyscncgarage]

I recently refit a Laguna Smart Shop II CNC Router with Rack mount tool changer. All has been going well so far.
The machine did not have a dust foot when I refitted it (the machine DID initially come with one) There was a solenoid was there for it. I wired it into output 8 and assigned it to DustFootActivate. Now controlled by M57=DustFootActivate ON(Dust Foot Down) and M58=DustFootActivate OFF(Dust Foot Up)

I want to make sure output 8 is off in the M6 tool change Macro, So right after M5 spindle off, I should add
M95 /58
After M5 Corrrect?

Further (I am not a router guy, be nice .
Where do you guys put your M57 (Foot down) and M58 (Foot Up) in your programs?
Do you add them manually?
Customer uses Vectric.

Thanks in advance,
Marty

[RogDC]

Hi Marty,
I have something similar with my pneumatic tool rack using one solenoid. I used M32/M33 ( Tail stock in/out ) before the other macros were added in and haven't changed it. M32 is placed after M5 in the mfunc6.mac macro and M33 is placed after the new tool is in the spindle. I also use M81/M82 to park the dust shoe and dock the dust shoe on a rack.

My workflow is M5, M32, pause to allow spindle to come to stop, M81, unload tool, load tool, M82, M33.

If I understand how your machine is configured, your M58 would be placed after M5, and M57 would be placed at the end of the macro after all other commands are executed. You may also want to add in a pause from the last tool command to allow the spindle to move away from the tool rack to prevent any interference with the tool rack.

mfunc6.mac

CNC12 5.20 mfun6.mac with tool rack extend and dust shoe park

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You can also create additional post processors for Vectric for specific functions. My primary one is for dust collection and smoothing, I also have them without dust collection and no smoothing.

Vectric Post Processors.zip

Modified Vectric Post Processors

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Hope this helps.

[ShawnM]

Hi Marty, on the Weeke router I just retrofit I added the pneumatic dust foot output to the M3 and M5. Anytime the spindle starts it lowers the dust boot and anytime the spindle stops it raises it. No fuss no muss. Never a worry with the ATC either. I also have a manual switch on the operator console to raise and lower it at anytime, even while it’s cutting. I also programmed the WMPG to even do it remotely while at the machine when it’s cutting. With the code in the M3 and M5 it also raises and lowers during the spindle warm up procedure. I didn’t have to think about when I wanted it up or down or worry about a bunch of coding and the PP. It’s a single line of code in each and if the spindle is on it’s down and off it’s up with manual override if ever needed.

[Gary Campbell]

Marty...
I am with Shawn on this one. Up/Down codes in the M3/M5

[martyscncgarage]

Marty...
I am with Shawn on this one. Up/Down codes in the M3/M5

Makes perfect sense as there is no spindle orient needed.

M94 /57 in the M3?
M95 /58 in the M5?

OR M57 in M3 and M58 in M5?

Where Output 8 is the dustfoot.

Thanks Shawn/Gary
Marty

[martyscncgarage]

Can anyone validate please?
Thanks
Marty

[ShawnM]

I’m using output 8 and I have the output set as “output 8” so I just added the down in my m3 and up in my m5.

[martyscncgarage]

I’m using output 8 and I have the output set as “output 8” so I just added the down in my m3 and up in my m5.

Sorry Shawn,
I am not following.
I set M57 as dustfootactivate on and M58 as dustfootactivate off
These two macros are also set on the WMPG Macro1 and Macro2 buttons


Can you provide a report so I can look at your M3 and M5 macros


Thanks!
Marty

[Sword]

Marty, I believe that should be M94 /28 and M95 /28 for DustFootActivate (on/off), as the example given in the mfunc.57 and mfunc.58 macros themselves.

[ShawnM]

Hi Marty, sorry for the late reply, I was out of town in Savannah for the holidays when you asked for a report.

Scott is correct and I assume you have this sorted out. You can add M95/28 and M94/28 to the M3 and M5 accordingly. As I said before I have the dust boot on output 8 and that's what I have it set as in the wizard, "output 8" not "DustFootActivate". I didn't assign the "DustFootActivate" to that output as I didn't know if there were any other macros in the system that may unexpectedly trigger that output. I only wanted the dust boot trigger in the M3 and M5, no where else. I try not to overcomplicate my macros or call other macros unnecessarily.