Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by RTech »

OK, I get it...that makes a lot of sense for new tool setup.

However, I would imagine someone has or will want to retrofit a machine with an automatic tool arm in the future and it would be nice to have a way to tell the control where the tool arm is (offset from spindle centerline). I could see someone running a production lathe and wanting to automate the process when changing a worn / broken insert.


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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by suntravel »

In this case you have to write a macro ....

... but in real world, why remeasure a tool if only the insert is changed?

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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by RTech »

IDK, just to check and verify the offset didn't change...or make sure you replaced it with the same insert.


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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by Spartan117 »

Uhm, i'm not sure if i get it right now.
Does the rear-tool-measuring work now? I understood it still does not?

Sorry for getting back that late, but the workload in my regular job exploded the last few weeks... :?
German-speaking, so please be patient with my english-skills :)


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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by mgeyer »

Spartan117 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:51 pm
Does the rear-tool-measuring work now?
We've made some changes to the tool-measurement calculations. From our testing, X and Z measured properly in all configurations (front/rear mount, auto/manual measure, ID/OD Tools, etc.)

The updated build can be found here:
https://centroid-support.filemail.com/d/aipbzelziakkdag

Please let us know if you're still encountering any issues.

Thank you,
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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by suntravel »

IMHO toolsetup on the lathe is perfect now

Automeasure in +Z direction is working also with calculating the stylus thickness.

Great job

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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

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Enter Key = Cycle Start is not working in tool setup in 5.19 AcornSix lathe.

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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by Muzzer »

Woohoo - looks as if this issue may be fixed now. If I can sneak out to the machine, I'll try out the update myself although realistically, given the lengthy update process, this may not be possible until the weekend.

FYI - mine has a rear mounted turret (with spindle "forward" being clockwise direction) and a TTO probe that is radially offset to the spindle axis.

It's been over 18 months since I highlighted this issue, so I'm glad it appears to have been addressed. I appreciate that CNC lathe is a bit of a minority sport and even then, mine is a rather unusual setup. On the upside I've been away from home a fair bit this last year so my workshop time has been rather limited.
https://centroidcncforum.com/viewtopic. ... 5&start=20


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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

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I have setup my lathe to rear mount also to test this out, IHMO no bugs now in all directions.

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Re: Wrong tool-offset calculation with Emcoturn 120 ( Rear Tool-Turret)

Post by Muzzer »

I'm part way through installing the 5.19 beta trial. I've copied all the wizard settings across from the previous version (4.8) but of course I need to modify the plc to implement my ATC controls. I had to create my own custom version, as my turret position feedback has 8 individual lines rather than Graycode.

Somewhere in the copious documentation there will doubtless be a great explanation but it's been a while since I last updated as you can tell. Do I now take the plc .SRC file that the wizard has just created and make the same edits I made before, then recompile it? That's presumably the only to combine the wizard settings with the plc mods.

I can use Visual Code Studio to compare the previous and new .SRC files but it's a bit of a job to go through this again, so if possible I'd like some confirmation that I'm on the right track before launching into it.

Many thanks


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