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410 X axis (1) position error < solved >

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I am installing an Allin1dc in my 1990 Bridgeport V2XT milling machine. I received the kit Jan. 3 2020 and the install was going great until Chapter 6,Final software configuration.
I am to jog the axis, I get a 410 X axis (1) position error. the same + or- jog on X ,Y , and Z axis. I tried 10%, 1% and 100% federate.
When I try the Z axis the air break will cycle ?
I went back and started at the beginning and checked all my settings.
System ID 1217192326. Serial # A900799. Will try to attach a report, harder than it looks for me.
Thanks Keith.
report_1217192326_2020-01-20_11-33-25.zip
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Hell that was easy :roll:


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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error

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When you try to move an axis, and get "410 ... position error", does the motor jump a turn or two at high speed? Or does the motor fail to move at all?

As a side note, I think you are confusing the incremental jog increment selection (x1, x10, x100) with the feedrate override. The jog increment selection is only relevant to Incremental jog mode (INCR light on) and to MPG handwheel movements. The feedrate override is separate, and is controlled by the "knob" at the bottom right.

The V2XT usually has a spindle brake, and usually does not have a Z axis holding brake. The PLC program you have chosen (Centroid-Standard-Mill-ALLIN1DC-r6.src) has support for a Z axis holding brake, but not for a spindle brake. You can worry about that later, after you get your servo motors moving under control.


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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error

Post by Bastard Thread »

Problem solved,Thanks to a post in march 2018 by Randy L.

I switched the D.C. wires to the servos at the Allin1 board. every thing is ok for now.

I for got to mention in my post the motors would rev up fast for 15 - 30 seconds then fault out. The motors turned smooth.
I was not in incremental mode as directed in chapter 6,motors unbelted.

And you are right about the spindle brake. So now I need a solution for this problem ?

By the way you were the one who solved this problem in 2018.
Thanks Keith.


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Spindle brake control on V2XT

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Your PLC program includes:

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ZBrakeRelease_O                 IS OUT9  ;SPDT Type 
;...
;Brake Release
IF (SV_PC_POWER_AXIS_3) THEN (ZBrakeRelease_O) ;Turns on OUT9 for Z-axis brake
You would want to change those sections to:

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SpindleBrakeRelease_O    IS OUT9  ;SPDT Type
;...
IF Aux3Key_I THEN (Aux3PD_PD)
IF (Aux3PD_PD ^ Aux3LED_O) || OnAtPowerUp_M THEN (Aux3LED_O)
IF !(Aux3LED_O && !SpindleEnableOut_O) THEN (SpindleBrakeRelease_O)
Then save your changes and recompile to mpu.plc.


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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error < solved >

Post by Bastard Thread »

Thanks for the information, but I have no idea what to do with it. If you could hold my hand and walk me through it I would appreciate it so much.
I have no experience using computers this way. I thought I was doing well by posting a report. LOL.
Thanks Keith.


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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error < solved >

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Send me a PM if you want to hire assistance.


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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error < solved >

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Bastard Thread wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:46 am Thanks for the information, but I have no idea what to do with it. If you could hold my hand and walk me through it I would appreciate it so much.
I have no experience using computers this way. I thought I was doing well by posting a report. LOL.
Thanks Keith.
It seems you need someone to modify the PLC for you in a couple of places.
My advice, spend the money and hire Marc(CNCSNW). He is worth it, he knows the PLC very well.
Trust me, money well spent.....you'll be up and running and happy....

Marty
Reminder, for support please follow this post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=383
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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error < solved >

Post by Bastard Thread »

Hello Marty , The problem with the brake was the wrong software was installed in my kit. Standard instead of BP boss.
When Josh installed BP boss the machine was happy.
Machine is up and running now. I air cut a program Friday night, 33 minutes long and the rotation of the spindle was the only problem.
I paid for my technical time up front with the purchase of the Allin1 BP boss kit.


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Re: 410 X axis (1) position error < solved >

Post by martyscncgarage »

Great to hear!
Glad you are close....
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