Gecko 203v/214v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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martyscncgarage
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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Dan M wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:43 pm
martyscncgarage wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:28 pm He responded once, I asked a couple more questions and never heard back. I guess I just build it myself eventually.
Marty
So strange, well I’ll post some pictures of mine when I get it this week. I’ll also keep you updated once I have it up and running.

Dan
Dan, I'm sure others would be interested in your review and build of the machine.
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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martyscncgarage wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:46 pm Either. I tend to be old school and use glass or cartridge fuses.
Marty
So after doing what I should have done first before asking a dumb question (which is actually read the spec sheets for the power supplies and VFD I have). I realize that they all have internal over load/heat protection (ie they’re already fused or have some sort of circuit protection). You guys must think I’m a dumb ass lol. So now I just have to decide on what switched fused disconnect I want to use. This is the one I’m looking at getting, unless I can find a fused disconnect switch similar to what you typically see on industrial equipment that isn’t crazy expensive.
https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Sh ... /CFS-2PM30


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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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You are not a dumb ass. The only dumb question is one that doesn't get asked.
Did you look at examples of the All in One DC schematics? It is good practice to fuse your control as an assembly at least. Sub fusing allows you to use smaller wire to low current need components like Acorn's power supply. You want to use 240vac for everything. VFD and motor is a decent load. Your Axis drives are likely a close second. Control wiring a distant third.

Not a good idea to use 30amp fuses and use 20 gauge wiring to feed AC loads. The wire will burn before the fuse goes.

I'd probably have a pair of fuses for the VFD/motor and a pair of fuses for the control/axis drives.

Does any of that make sense?
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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martyscncgarage wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:00 pm You are not a dumb ass. The only dumb question is one that doesn't get asked.
Did you look at examples of the All in One DC schematics? It is good practice to fuse your control as an assembly at least. Sub fusing allows you to use smaller wire to low current need components like Acorn's power supply. You want to use 240vac for everything. VFD and motor is a decent load. Your Axis drives are likely a close second. Control wiring a distant third.

Not a good idea to use 30amp fuses and use 20 gauge wiring to feed AC loads. The wire will burn before the fuse goes.

I'd probably have a pair of fuses for the VFD/motor and a pair of fuses for the control/axis drives.

Does any of that make sense?
Trying to do this from my smart phone....
Marty

Yes and this is what I have planned.

I will be using 8 gauge from the outlet (the end with the nema 6-50 plug) to the line end fused disconnect switch.
And 10 gauge from the load end to the power supplies and VFD via power distribution blocks. Then obviously on the dc side of the power supplies the wires will be gauged appropriately for the amps.

But if you wouldn’t trust the internal protection of the VFD/power supplies, I will do what I originally planned and either fuse them or use the appropriately sized breakers in between the power supplies and the fused disconnect switch, I’d rather be safe than sorry.

More than likely I would need to use fuses do to the low amperage draw of the power supplies. Unless I bought expensive breakers lol.


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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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Fuses are quicker acting than standard breakers, but they are used......
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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Well the router showed up today. Now it’s go time on getting this thing knocked out.
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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Looking forward to your build and a report/review on the router. Short term and long term.
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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To get a better idea of the size of this thing. It’s not your typical 2x4 router.
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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I. Believe the travels are a little larger than 2'x4' are they not? What size are the linear rails?
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Re: Gecko 203v wiring question/NEW ROUTER BUILD

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martyscncgarage wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:41 am I. Believe the travels are a little larger than 2'x4' are they not? What size are the linear rails?
Yes the cutting envelope is 28”x52”. This along with the steel construction was the reason I went with this brand router.


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