Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program!

Post by Malachilee »

cnckeith wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:04 pm post a fresh report.zip so we can see if all the com errors are cleared up. shawn is right this setup has massive com issues, solve that first, then look a all the limits you have wired.
Here is a fresh report. Thanks for looking into this!
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program!

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suntravel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:54 pm Is it possible to post the fusion file?

This is how it is if I post from fusion

Code: Select all

(File:  1001.nc)
(T3 D=6.000 CR=0.000 - ZMIN=-20.000 - right hand tap)
N10 G90 G94 G17
N15 G21
(Material Size MinMax for CNC12 V5.40 Graphing and Run Time Graphics)
:::: X- = 0.000, X+ = 100.000
:::: Y- = 0.000, Y+ = 30.000
:::: Z- = -20.000, Z+ = 0.000
 
N20 G28 G91 Z0.000
N25 G90
 
N30  
(Drill1)
N35 T3 M6
N40 S500 M3
N45 G17 G90 G94
N50 G54
N55 G0 X10.000 Y15.000
N60 G43 Z15.000 H3
N65 G0 Z5.000
N70 G98 G84 X10.000 Y15.000 Z-20.000 R5.000 P1. Q1.
N75 X50.000
N80 X90.000
N85 G80
N90 Z15.000
N95 G28 G91 Z0.000
N100 G90
N105 G28 G91 X0.000 Y0.000
N110 G90
N115 M5
N120 M30
UWe
Hi Uwe, I did attach the .NC file about 4-5 comments back. I'm not sure how to add them directly into my comment, like you did.
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

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I need the fusion file, so I can post process it, to figure out the problem...

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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

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suntravel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:22 pm I need the fusion file, so I can post process it, to figure out the problem...

Uwe
This is the program I was running when I started having issues.
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

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thanks for the updated report. the last entries are below.
you can see these yourself in the error log menu in the utility menu.

i see you are using homeall and limit all. how do you have them wired? photos please.

I would drag the LimitAll out of the Wizard input selection (make sure the soft limits are set correctly) and press write settings to CNC control and run the job.

i would then press Alt i and watch the input #2 while the machine is running and or press the switches by hand and wiggle the wires to see the input trigger.

1) 09-08-2025 6:24:12 490 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:14 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:14 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:14 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 09-08-2025 6:28:28 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:33 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:33 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:33 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:08 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:08 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:08 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:29 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:29 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:29 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:21 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:21 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:21 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:23 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:23 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:23 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:09 490 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:47 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:47 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:47 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 09-08-2025 8:30:06 907 X axis travel exceeded
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:15 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:15 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:15 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:17 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:17 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:17 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:43:04 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:43:04 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:43:04 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:32 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:32 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:32 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:35 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:35 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:35 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:24 5068 SLOW_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:41 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:45 907 Z axis travel exceeded
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:53 5068 SLOW_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 9:24:57 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(1) 09-08-2025 9:26:31 204 Exiting CNC...Normal Exit (66)
(1) 09-08-2025 11:45:16 199 CNC Started
(4) 09-08-2025 11:45:20 9039 Software Exited, Cycle E-Stop/Reset to Continue
(1) 09-08-2025 11:45:22 CNC12 Acorn Mill v5.30
(4) 09-08-2025 11:45:22 9039 Software Exited, Cycle E-Stop/Reset to Continue
(1) 09-08-2025 11:45:27 490 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:06 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:06 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:12 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:13 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:14 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:15 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:55 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:56 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:57 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:58 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:02 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:03 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:04 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:04 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:29 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:30 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:31 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:32 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:54 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:57:43 5068 SLOW_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:58:24 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:47 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:47 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:47 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:51 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:51 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:51 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:52 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:52 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:52 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:11:41 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:11:41 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:11:41 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:48:59 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:48:59 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:48:59 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 14:47:41 Creating report...
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

Post by Malachilee »

cnckeith wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:41 pm thanks for the updated report. the last entries are below.
you can see these yourself in the error log menu in the utility menu.

i see you are using homeall and limit all. how do you have them wired? photos please.

I would drag the LimitAll out of the Wizard input selection (make sure the soft limits are set correctly) and press write settings to CNC control and run the job.

i would then press Alt i and watch the input #2 while the machine is running and or press the switches by hand and wiggle the wires to see the input trigger.

1) 09-08-2025 6:24:12 490 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:14 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:14 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:14 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 09-08-2025 6:28:28 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:33 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:33 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:28:33 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:08 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:08 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:08 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:29 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:29 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 6:30:29 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:21 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:21 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:21 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:23 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:23 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:16:23 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:09 490 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:47 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:47 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:28:47 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 09-08-2025 8:30:06 907 X axis travel exceeded
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:15 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:15 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:15 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:17 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:17 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:38:17 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:42:48 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:43:04 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:43:04 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:43:04 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:32 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:32 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:32 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:35 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:35 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 8:44:35 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:24 5068 SLOW_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:41 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:45 907 Z axis travel exceeded
(4) 09-08-2025 9:22:53 5068 SLOW_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 9:24:57 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(1) 09-08-2025 9:26:31 204 Exiting CNC...Normal Exit (66)
(1) 09-08-2025 11:45:16 199 CNC Started
(4) 09-08-2025 11:45:20 9039 Software Exited, Cycle E-Stop/Reset to Continue
(1) 09-08-2025 11:45:22 CNC12 Acorn Mill v5.30
(4) 09-08-2025 11:45:22 9039 Software Exited, Cycle E-Stop/Reset to Continue
(1) 09-08-2025 11:45:27 490 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:06 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:06 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:12 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:13 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:14 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:15 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:55 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:56 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:57 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:54:58 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:02 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:03 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:04 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:04 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:29 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:30 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:31 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:32 4042 Probe Cleared
(4) 09-08-2025 11:56:54 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:57:43 5068 SLOW_JOG_SELECTED
(4) 09-08-2025 11:58:24 5067 FAST_JOG_SELECTED
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:47 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:47 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:47 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:51 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:51 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:51 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:52 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:52 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:06:52 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:11:41 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:11:41 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:11:41 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:48:59 407 X+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:48:59 407 Y+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 13:48:59 407 Z+ limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 09-08-2025 14:47:41 Creating report...
I just checked my switches, and they seem to be wired in an unusual way. I'm not entirely sure why they are configured like this, but they have been that way for a few years now. The Y and Z limit switches are connected to IN1, while the X limit switch is wired to IN2. I removed the LimitAll function from the wizard, and now none of the switches are working for travel or homing. Please see the attached images for details on how they are connected.
I have gone through all the wires and double-checked their connections, and also checked the switches to the PLC Diag screen. Everything is tripping from green to red, or red to green, at least before I removed the LimitAll from the wizard.
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IMG_2151.jpeg
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

Post by cnckeith »

do they open in the input when triggered or close the input when triggered?

wire them up as classic HomeAll , if they are NC wire in series, if they are NO wire in parallel
https://www.centroidcnc.com/dealersuppo ... 954.r5.pdf

(ignore the LimitAll as seen on this schematic.)
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

Post by Malachilee »

cnckeith wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:51 pm do they open in the input when triggered or close the input when triggered?

wire them up as classic HomeAll.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/dealersuppo ... 954.r5.pdf

(ignore the LimitAll as seen on this schematic.)
The lights on the diag screen goes from green(with the white line over it) to red.
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

Post by cnckeith »

ok , that means the switches are normally open. so that means when they are triggered they close the input. use a continuity meter to verify this.

for Normally Open switches you wire them in parallel not series as shown in the schematic i posted above.

review starting on page 59 https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... manual.pdf

and starting on page 24 of the axis pairing manual you can see how to wire NO switches in parallel.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... _guide.pdf

post a photo of the machine and the switches mounted on it.

review what the virtual led's mean here.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... screen.pdf
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Re: Machine Stopping Mid Program! <flaky limits and bad coms>

Post by Malachilee »

cnckeith wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 9:51 pm ok , that means the switches are normally open. so that means when they are triggered they close the input. use a continuity meter to verify this.

for Normally Open switches you wire them in parallel not series as shown in the schematic i posted above.

review starting on page 59 https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... manual.pdf

and starting on page 24 of the axis pairing manual you can see how to wire NO switches in parallel.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... _guide.pdf

post a photo of the machine and the switches mounted on it.

review what the virtual led's mean here.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... screen.pdf
Hi CNCKeith, I double-checked the limit switches; they are normally open and wired in parallel. The machine is a ProLight 1000, and all the limit switches are the factory-installed limits.

Also, my machine has been working almost perfectly for the last year or so, so it was odd to have this start out of the blue.
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-Lee
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