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CNC12 v5.07 rev14 now available for download.

https://centroid-support.filemail.com/d ... 1305ef1a64

rev14 release notes.

-Fixed cnc12 missing wmpg sent packets in the 64 bit build
- WMPG will now properly set Fast/Slow Jog rate when X10 or X100 is selected and Z-X100Lockout Feature is enabled.
-Plasma Intercon: Improved dxf/svg import and determination of safe lead-in/out placements
-Plasma Intercon: Lead-outs support over cutting onto the beginning cut of a part
-Plasma Intercon: Lead-in and Lead-out are now controlled separately
-MPU will now reboot if a firmware update fails to install the first time, preventing error messages on startup
-Fixed bug where the mini dro and mini machine coordinates were not removed when returning to the CSR menu from MDI causing graphical bugs in other menus
-Defaulted parameter 3 to a value of 6 for Acorn and AcornSix router installs
-Added check to the installer to close any Windows Explorer Image (single running instance) that has a lock on any directory running out of cncm or cnct. This is intended to break hidden locks caused by the Windows system preventing the renaming (backup) of the current cnc12 install
-Fixed bug where "Increment Mode" was displayed incorrectly and inaccurately in the WCS origin menu when cycling through pages
-Fixed the probe stylus graphic becoming disproportional
-Parm 56, bit 0 (add 1) will apply an averaging filter to the feedrate display (does not affect the actual rate)

R14 64bit is now running on my machines, no problems detected.

WMPG works and jogs correctly.
Probe and TTO ok.
RTG shows all axis correctly.

I noticed there are some in depth changes in the PLC, so if you update make a fresh install, do not restore report. This is very important.

Wizard PDF and Reports attached if needed.

Uwe

Installed 64 bit 5.07r14 last night, went to test cut today and ran into a slight problem

Router with paired 2 & 4 axis autosquare, had to re-home and ran into an error with Y-travel exceeded, homing operation was interrupted, unable to move off of limit switch with MPG or VCP, exited CNC12, powered down machine. Powered machine back on, started CNC 12, press cycle start to home machine, and Y axis no longer paired. Went into Wizard and axis pairing was not enabled.

This is a new issue experienced from the earlier homing sequence interruption of just losing the soft limit. Previously the software limits of travel would be cleared out of CNC 12 during a homing interruption.

During re-calibrating my machine auto-square from prior issue, I discovered the following issue.

I use G30 for my tool touch off plate to measure tool Z-Offset. The G-30 Z value is being over-written at what I presume machine homing or Z part zero to the Y value. I have been able to repeat the condition.

I don't use auto squaring, so I can't comment on that. When do you see the G30 Z value get changed, or what precedes it? I use it for a fixed tool measure device, so I'll have to take a look.

I've installed rev14 on my two machines, and all is working well so far. All previous issues I've had appear to be resolved.

When I save the G30 settings to machine Z 0 then home the machine, that is when I notice the G30-Z value is being over-written with the G30 X value.

If I save the G30 settings, then exit, restart CNC 12, then home, that is when I notice the over-write of G30-Z. It could also be over-written when zeroing the tool to the bed/material prior to issuing the G30 cmd in MDI.

If I change the over-written value of G30 Z to 0, then save, it remains for the duration until the machine is homed again.

Hope this makes sense.

The auto-squaring was just by chance that it happened, but identified a problem, and I got to re-square my machine after the gantry racked from not being paired any longer.

RogDC wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:27 pm Installed 64 bit 5.07r14 last night, went to test cut today and ran into a slight problem

Router with paired 2 & 4 axis autosquare, had to re-home and ran into an error with Y-travel exceeded, homing operation was interrupted, unable to move off of limit switch with MPG or VCP, exited CNC12, powered down machine. Powered machine back on, started CNC 12, press cycle start to home machine, and Y axis no longer paired. Went into Wizard and axis pairing was not enabled.

This is a new issue experienced from the earlier homing sequence interruption of just losing the soft limit. Previously the software limits of travel would be cleared out of CNC 12 during a homing interruption.

hello!
thanks for testing out rev14.
yeah if you bail mid homing cycle you can sometimes interrupt the cycle while the axes are un paired. there is a command that re-pairs them after it is square'd up in the home program...so, if you cancel out after it un-pairs but before it re-pairs then the machine is left in the un-paired state. and its up to your to re-pair them.

in a future rev we are working on a way to prevent this from happening. right now the home program is changing the pairing parameter from paired to no paired that is why the Wizard (which reads theses parameters upon start up) show'd it as un-paired.

RogDC,

G30 (Return #2) is used for your ATC Tool Change position, specifically the Z-Flyover height which is 20.8099 as set by you in the wizard. This value is written to G30 for the ATC. When Changing Return #2 in CNC12 there is a pop up that states that it is the Z value for the Tool change.

I recommend using Return #3 for your TT position, this position can be adjusted on the Tool Touch Off Screen in the Wizard.

Chris,
I haven't run into this issue with G30 until this release.

I did not set Z value at 20.8099, this is being written by the Wizard. My max Z travel is set to 14 7/8".

20.8099 is my machine Y value for the touch plate.

Can you help identify where the 20.8099 Z value is being generated?

The only time entered that value was setting up the G30 WCS position as I have in previous versions for my touch plate to measure tool offset.

Something has changed in R14 from R12 causing this behavior.

cnckeith wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:08 am
yeah if you bail mid homing cycle you can sometimes interrupt the cycle while the axes are un paired. there is a command that re-pairs them after it is square'd up in the home program...so, if you cancel out after it un-pairs but before it re-pairs then the machine is left in the un-paired state. and its up to your to re-pair them.

in a future rev we are working on a way to prevent this from happening. right now the home program is changing the pairing parameter from paired to no paired that is why the Wizard (which reads theses parameters upon start up) show'd it as un-paired.

This is the first time I have had the un-pairing happen when interrupting a homing session. Worst that has happened before was just losing the travel soft limits.

I was trying to re-home the machine after the initial home, that is how I got into the condition which I wasn't able to back-off the limit switch which triggered first when the machine was looking for the slaved Y axis to trip first. I wasn't able to back off Y during the homing with the VCP or MPG in the 1x mode when it was in the state of Y limit triggering before the Y Slave as it was expecting.