CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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cncsnw wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:56 pm Mill manual, page 12:
Note: When working with absolute values, the XYZ axes are used. When working with incremental values, the XYZ
axes are replaced by the UVZ axes. This is because the XYZ axes reference the zero value of the workpiece, while
the UVW axes reference the zero value of the machine itself.
Huh?

On a mill, the linear axes are X, Y and Z. Incremental/absolute and workpiece/machine coordinates do not enter into it.

Secondary linear axes are conventionally named U (if movement is parallel with X); V (if movement is parallel with Y); and W (if movement is parallel with Z).

On a lathe control, the letters U and W (and maybe V, once the software supports a Y axis) are used for incremental distances, but (1) that is a subject for G code programming, not understanding machine motions, and (2) this is the mill control manual anyway.
Our newest draft of the manual has fixed this issue, thanks again for the feedback
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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cncsnw wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 1:34 pm ... and yet, the Intercon program header has a "Units" field that can be toggled between Inches and Millimeters.

As far as I can tell (and I have not invested the time to test it comprehensively) this was a good idea that was never fully implemented. I advise users to ignore it, and to ensure that it is the same as the default machine units.

The feature should either be completed, so that you really can designate separate units for any individual job file; or that field should be removed from the Intercon header.

This is not really a subject for the manual, except perhaps as a temporary measure (since v5.02 has been released, and Jenna is working to document it as it stands). Until the software is fixed, the manual could perhaps describe this as a developmental feature, and advise that you must always leave the "Units" setting the same as the current machine units.
These features have been removed/noted in our newest draft of the manual
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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cncsnw wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:04 pm In the M&G code table, and the chapter 13 descriptions, the manual should not imply that M30 is special or unique to Intercon.

It is widely used as an "end of program" code. Once, its function was to rewind the spool of tape containing the CNC program.

Centroid controls have never needed a rewind code, or any other special code to mark the end of a program; but because many CAD/CAM postprocessors conventionally post an M30 code, it is a useful vehicle for custom operations that any given control installation might need. Centroid added it to the Intercon post for that reason: it was already an established standard.

The description in chapter 13 is good. I would just revise the short description in the M&G code table to say "end of program" (and not specify Intercon); and I would revise/expand the chapter 13 description to note that many CAM systems, including Intercon, post an M30 code at the end of the program.
This issue has been fixed in our newest release of the draft manual. Thanks again for the feedback!
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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cncsnw wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:09 pm Both manuals, section "1.10 How to unlock software features or unlock your Control"

This is no longer how software unlocks work. Needs to be replaced with a description of how to import a license file.
A new tutorial/guide has been added to our most recent draft release of the manuals. Thanks again for the feedback!
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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suntravel wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:05 am Mill manual Page153

Convert / Create could be removed

screenshots are not good readable if manual is viewed on screen, could be improved, I used Nik Detail Extractor in Photoshop for the examples.

Uwe
Looking into fixing the screenshots now as well as the missing parameters
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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As of today, a new draft version of the manual has been uploaded to our existing link. Please go and check it out to see the changes that have been made.
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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Mill

Page57 screenshot from lathe

New Laser Setup is nice

Both

Intercon - good job on the graph screenshots better visible now

New Introduction to Centroid CNC Macros - top

New chapters in Configuration - top, good idea to have most everything in the manual and not lots of extra files

Machine Parameters

"This screen provides you with a method of changing various parameters that are used by the control. Altogether, you
have access to 500 parameters spread across 5 tables. Each table gives you access to 100 parameters at a time."

Should be 1000 parameters / 10 tables

I appreciate the way the new manuals are growing, and well rereading them makes me better to use CNC12 :D

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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

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suntravel wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:41 pm Mill

Page57 screenshot from lathe

New Laser Setup is nice

Both

Intercon - good job on the graph screenshots better visible now

New Introduction to Centroid CNC Macros - top

New chapters in Configuration - top, good idea to have most everything in the manual and not lots of extra files

Machine Parameters

"This screen provides you with a method of changing various parameters that are used by the control. Altogether, you
have access to 500 parameters spread across 5 tables. Each table gives you access to 100 parameters at a time."

Should be 1000 parameters / 10 tables

I appreciate the way the new manuals are growing, and well rereading them makes me better to use CNC12 :D

Uwe
Thanks for the feedback Uwe! Those changes have been made on our side, and will be seen with the next draft release.
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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

Post by suntravel »

After testing V5.04 on my lathe and a short conversation with Keith and Chris, Paramater 458 is missing in the Lathe Manual.

Must be set to 1 to keep C-Axis on outside a job for manual jogging and display on the DRO.

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Re: CNC12 v5.0+ Draft Operator's Manual Mill/Lathe

Post by S-K Machine »

Reading the new manual....

Boo-boo on page 51. The F button descriptions do not correlate to the screen example.
Actually the F1 is correct but then the rest of the button descriptions are off by 2...ie F2 is really F4, F3 is F5 etc.
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