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MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:50 pm
by Sword
As the title states, I'm noticing that MPG motion is not as smooth with beta6. I usually set it for balanced response, but notice it with all settings. For lack of better description, is seems a bit pulsy or jerky. Most noticeable in 10x. Going back to the release appears to be better. It's a CWP-4.

Z axis 100x lockout....WHOOHOO!! 8-)

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:08 am
by suntravel
Sword wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:50 pm As the title states, I'm noticing that MPG motion is not as smooth with beta6. I usually set it for balanced response, but notice it with all settings. For lack of better description, is seems a bit pulsy or jerky. Most noticeable in 10x. Going back to the release appears to be better. It's a CWP-4.

Z axis 100x lockout....WHOOHOO!! 8-)
I have always fast response set. Did not note a difference on the WMPG. Works like the hardwired MPG on my lathe.

Will check it out with smooth setting.

Uwe

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:26 am
by suntravel
Checked it out, on my mill I do not notice a difference between 4.82 / 499R6-R7 how the WMPG performs.

For my taste Quick Response fits best.

Uwe

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:05 pm
by Joey
Sword wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:50 pm As the title states, I'm noticing that MPG motion is not as smooth with beta6. I usually set it for balanced response, but notice it with all settings. For lack of better description, is seems a bit pulsy or jerky. Most noticeable in 10x. Going back to the release appears to be better. It's a CWP-4.

Z axis 100x lockout....WHOOHOO!! 8-)
I've tried multiple previous builds to narrow down a change in MPG behavior/motion with no success.
Sword, can I have a report from your Machine to better replicate and test previous builds?

Have you tried the latest build? Latest R8 build shouldn't have any MPG changes, I'm just curious.

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:05 pm
by Sword
Joey wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:05 pm Have you tried the latest build? Latest R8 build shouldn't have any MPG changes, I'm just curious.
Joey, after going back and forth between the release and the beta's, I'm not so sure that it's any different between them. If it indeed is different than I remember, I may have something else going on, or I may just be imagining it. :?

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:29 pm
by Joey
Sword, Would you be able to demonstrate the difference in a video between 4.82 and the latest build you have on the PC?

Have you tried 4.82 again to compare to 4.99? Or did you just compare between the 4.99 beta builds?

I'm running a wmpg-4 and your running a cwp-4, I wonder if that's making a difference. I think I may have one to test with somewhere.

Can you post a Report asap. v 5.0 is up as the release candidate (RC) and were close to having a release. I'd like to pinpoint this before the 5.0 moves past the release candidate stage and is released.

I've definitely thought there was differences between builds before and was proven wrong when I went back and checked. Recently I thought the AD2 (smoothing) was different but sure enough when I went back and took a video of the same job at the same feedrate between the 2 builds. They were exactly the same. :D

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:47 pm
by Sword
Joey wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:29 pm Sword, Would you be able to demonstrate the difference in a video between 4.82 and the latest build you have on the PC?
Joey, I'm not seeing a difference now, both seem to be not as smooth as I remember, and it may just be me. Maybe I can't spin the wheel as smoothly as I used to. :lol:

Anyway, here are the two reports. This is on my production machine, and the last version before installing the betas was 4.80, so the reports are 4.80 to 4.99r8. Haven't had the time to drop 5.0 on it yet.

Video link. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:55 pm
by cnckeith
ok, thats good news, thanks for the reports.

Re: MPG motion not quite the same as with the release

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:55 pm
by suntravel
Sword wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:47 pm

Joey, I'm not seeing a difference now, both seem to be not as smooth as I remember, and it may just be me. Maybe I can't spin the wheel as smoothly as I used to. :lol:

We are getting older... :D

Uwe