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Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:57 pm
by cnckeith
do you have a report from the working installation of cnc12? that way we can compare the two setups?

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:34 pm
by Angelo DiCenso
Hello cncKeith;
I never used the carousel I changed the tools manually. Everything else worked great.
I have the carousel turning Forward and Reverse after working on it all day the tool count sensor is still skipping.
the 8 tool bolts (5/16) that the sensor scans over the tip could be to small ??
I have installed a Homing sensor for tool 1

Question: I will like to keep the 4th axis for a rotary tool, do you suggest to do so or use it to run the carousel as an axis and delete the way I did the Forward and Reverse, wich works ?

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:09 pm
by Angelo DiCenso
Hello All;
I am using CNC12 5.08
Attempting to install the ATC, I run into a problem with the wizard ATC Setup. It lists the tool change y Value, Distance and direction to clear and
Clearing Axis. My Carousel is attached to the gantry (Y Axis), there should no be any value for the y axis otherwise it will have to travel to the y setting to change the tool. How do I input that ??
Distance and direction to clear ?? The z Axis needs to lift to release the tool on tool putback. the x Axis needs to insert tool into the fork.
Clearing Axis ??

https://centroidcncforum.com/download/f ... w&id=27028





ScreenshotATC Wizzard Setup (2).png
Screenshot FixesCarouselPositions.cnc (1).png

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:44 pm
by cnckeith
you might need a custom PLC program for this carousel.

can you define how the unit works and all the sensors that are on it with detailed photos/drawings

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:17 am
by Allin1Chris
Angelo DiCenso wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:09 pm Hello All;
I am using CNC12 5.08
Attempting to install the ATC, I run into a problem with the wizard ATC Setup. It lists the tool change y Value, Distance and direction to clear and
Clearing Axis. My Carousel is attached to the gantry (Y Axis), there should no be any value for the y axis otherwise it will have to travel to the y setting to change the tool. How do I input that ??
Distance and direction to clear ?? The z Axis needs to lift to release the tool on tool putback. the x Axis needs to insert tool into the fork.
Clearing Axis ??
Hello, the Wizard was setup to work with many different styles of ATC, in the case that the carousel was fixed for both X and Y, we move both axes just in case. Technically since your ATC is attached to Y, the Y movement should be harmless, but may not be the most time efficient. It may be a good idea for us to add an option to "Only move clearing axis and Z axis" to the wizard.

Clearing Axis is the axis used to move the tool into the fork style holder, and retrieve the tool from the holder. In this case it would be your X or 1st axis. The Distance / Direction field is to indicate how far the Clearing axis must move to clear the fingers of the holder (Direction is indicated by positive or negative value in relation to the actual tool position). In your case since the carousel is in the negative X direction, you will want a positive number. The Z will always move up to clear from the tools (it goes to Home position and back down to specified tool change height).

The only workaround for the Y moving issue at the moment, is to modify the M6 macro to move only the axes you want or remove the Y moves from the N300 and N500 sections of the "fixedcarouselpositions.cnc" file found under C:\cncm\system\fixedcarousel.

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:50 pm
by Angelo DiCenso
Hello AllIn1Chris and cncKeith Thank you for the help.

I have gone through the ATC Wizard setup with the new advise and This is the outcome.
fixedcarouselpositions.cnc
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fixedcarouselpositions.cnc
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Do you thing that this will work?

Other Notes and photos

ATC Door Sensor.jpeg
Input Definitions.png
Output definitions.png
Spindle above tool wile Carousel rotates for next tool.jpeg
Spindle at Home position.jpeg
Spindle at inserted into fork  position.jpeg
Spindle at ready to insert into fork position.jpeg
Tool 1 Homing Sensor.jpeg

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
by Angelo DiCenso
Tool Counter Sensor.jpeg

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:39 am
by Angelo DiCenso
To all out there.
I have the Carousel working and anyone is welcome to ask me questions.
1) I have one issue with the tool counter sensor, The led on the acorn goes on and off but the Alt I I/O skips tools. How do i fix this??
2) I will like to have the light Auxkey torn my OUT43 on and off It is different from the others, need help.

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:44 am
by Angelo DiCenso

Re: ATC Carousel

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:12 pm
by Angelo DiCenso
To cncKeith, AllIn1Chris, cncsnw and Gary Campbel:
Thank you for the help The carousel is now running correctly, thank you guys.
however 1 Problem still remains:
The tool counter sensor; The led on the acorn INP2 (and I tried INP38 also) goes on and off has is should but the "Alt I" I/O diagnostic on the computer does not, skips tools counts here and there . Why is this happening, How do i fix this??

This is the video of the Carousel Working, I can't load tool is because if it misses a tool it will crush the carousel

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP ... ZYQUlhU2xR