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Homing X and Y only

Post by Sowest48 »

I don’t want to home the Z axis, just the X and Y – I plan a plasma unit. I looked through the documentation and searched the forum, but I can’t seem to find an answer. Maybe I just missed it but is there a way to do that?

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Re: Homing X and Y only

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Don't designate a homing sensor or switch. You will need to make sure the Z is near the top of it's travel before you home the machine, or edit out the M26/Z line in the cnchome file
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Re: Homing X and Y only

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Help me understand what you're saying.

Right now I don't have a Z homing switch. I am going to use ohmic touch-off for the Z position. It's my understanding the homing routine always starts with the expectation that the Z axis will travel to the homing switch. How do I "tell" it not to try to home Z? Yes, I could modify the file and eliminate the Z home command if there is no other way but I thought that since it was designed to support plasma machines there would be a way to easily eliminate that step.

Yes, making sure the Z is clear before moving in X or Y is understood.
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Re: Homing X and Y only

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If you do not define a Z switch in the input configuration AND you do have a Z axis defined, the controller will not "home" the axis, it will simply set the machine Z home at its current position. You will use the ohmic sensor to set the part (WCS) Z zero.

That said, and if you are using a retract height in your files, if the machine Z zero is not high enough you may have a conflict with the travel limits (if set)
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Re: Homing X and Y only

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Thanks for the info Gary but I’m still confused.

As far as I can see in defining inputs with the Wizard there is only one selection and that’s “Home All” and that’s defined to IN1 which is where I have my NC parallel switches wired. To be clear, I have a slave home switch (the X axis is slaved) wired to IN2 and selected. I also have a torch float switch wired to IN3 as a backup to the ohmic touch off. The input type is defined as Plasma.

That said, how do I not define the Z switch?

I'm attaching a cell phone image of the input page that may help.

In looking at your video page I see you use an acorn controller to control your ShopBot. Nice to know if my current ShopBot controller ever quits.

Again, thanks for the help.

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Re: Homing X and Y only

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You can either use HomeAll and remove the the M91/92 /Z references in the cncm.hom file to inhibit the axis search for the home switch. The M26/Z will set the home position at the current Z location.

Or instead of using HomeAll, you can use two inputs for X home and Y home.
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Re: Homing X and Y only

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The only options I have for defining the inputs are those listed on the Input Type options shown to the left.

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Click on input type and select "All"
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Re: Homing X and Y only

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tblough wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:42 pm You can either use HomeAll and remove the the M91/92 /Z references in the cncm.hom file to inhibit the axis search for the home switch. The M26/Z will set the home position at the current Z location.

Or instead of using HomeAll, you can use two inputs for X home and Y home.
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Re: Homing X and Y only

Post by Sowest48 »

OK, I understand what needs to be changed if I deviate from the standard homing macro but if I make the change as shown in the attached image (change Z to 0 in the auto homing sequence) will the existing macro ignore Z homing?
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