Software enhancements request

[occustoms]

It probably has not been implemented yet because Centroid controls circa 2000 have historically had only one feed rate control knob.

Even so so many other machines have had this for a very long time. Why didnt they do it when all the cool kids did it. Lol

[occustoms]

Would be nice to have a wizard like the acorn. And same basic layout of vcp. With the chuck open/close etc. I like that layout as great default one. I know they are doin the global software but not sure if everything will have the same exact layouts. Just my .02

[cnckeith]

Would be nice to have a wizard like the acorn. And same basic layout of vcp. With the chuck open/close etc. I like that layout as great default one. I know they are doin the global software but not sure if everything will have the same exact layouts. Just my .02

We are working on a Wizard for Hickory. and it is possible we will create Wizard for allin1dc after that.

as far as VCP goes, the Legacy VCP layout is included with Oak/Allin1dc as a default VCP layout since it matches the hard operators panel found on the M400 and T400 consoles But, there is no reason why you can't load up the Acorn Version (and modify it anyway you like)
There is no difference in the VCP code itself from Oak/Allin1dc to Acorn, its just the skin that is different. here is how..

https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... manual.pdf

[cncsnw]

And (sorry Mark) please, please please do not make the default Oak/Allin1DC VCP be like the default Acorn one, where all of the general-purpose Aux keys have been replaced with special-function keys that do not apply to most machines.

[cnckeith]

And (sorry Mark) please, please please do not make the default Oak/Allin1DC VCP be like the default Acorn one, where all of the general-purpose Aux keys have been replaced with special-function keys that do not apply to most machines.

correct.
the Oak/Allin1DC 'stock' default VCP skin is just a staring place, it is then up to the integrator to edit and modify buttons and actions for their particular application.

[occustoms]

And (sorry Mark) please, please please do not make the default Oak/Allin1DC VCP be like the default Acorn one, where all of the general-purpose Aux keys have been replaced with special-function keys that do not apply to most machines.

correct.
the Oak/Allin1DC 'stock' default VCP skin is just a staring place, it is then up to the integrator to edit and modify buttons and actions for their particular application.

Ok, any chance of getting a rapid override for just the rapid movements only?

[cnckeith]

yes. i will post info on how in next post.

[cncsnw]

Here are some issues you will want to think about when implementing a second override, for rapid moves:
1) Backward compatibility with existing PLC programs that write only to SV_PLC_FEEDRATE_KNOB and SV_PLC_FEEDRATE_OVERRIDE, and which manage the SV_RAPID_OVERRIDE selection to determine whether or not that single override value applies to rapid moves and jogging.
2) Parameter 146: should the PLC program activate feed hold when either override is turned down below the threshold set in P146?
2b) ... or should that depend on what kind of move, if any, is taking place at the moment?
3) F8/Graph drawing speed: should that be controlled by the rapid override knob, or only by the feedrate override knob?
4) Should jogging speeds be affected by the feedrate override, or by the rapid override?
5) Is there room to display two overrides and two white bar graphs in the status window? If not, which one should be displayed?

[cnckeith]

Here are some issues you will want to think about when implementing a second override, for rapid moves:
1) Backward compatibility with existing PLC programs that write only to SV_PLC_FEEDRATE_KNOB and SV_PLC_FEEDRATE_OVERRIDE, and which manage the SV_RAPID_OVERRIDE selection to determine whether or not that single override value applies to rapid moves and jogging.
2) Parameter 146: should the PLC program activate feed hold when either override is turned down below the threshold set in P146?
2b) ... or should that depend on what kind of move, if any, is taking place at the moment?

i would say no, the knob threshold feed hold feature should not supported if there are both rapid override and feedrate override knobs, use feed hold button to feed hold in this case


3) F8/Graph drawing speed: should that be controlled by the rapid override knob, or only by the feedrate override knob?

only feedrate knob

4) Should jogging speeds be affected by the feedrate override, or by the rapid override?
only feedrate knob

5) Is there room to display two overrides and two white bar graphs in the status window? If not, which one should be displayed?

i think we can squeeze it on the screen somewhere, or use a PLC word to display it on the VCP to quickly implement and test.

first implementation of this feature will be with VCP controls.

[occustoms]

Here are some issues you will want to think about when implementing a second override, for rapid moves:
1) Backward compatibility with existing PLC programs that write only to SV_PLC_FEEDRATE_KNOB and SV_PLC_FEEDRATE_OVERRIDE, and which manage the SV_RAPID_OVERRIDE selection to determine whether or not that single override value applies to rapid moves and jogging.
2) Parameter 146: should the PLC program activate feed hold when either override is turned down below the threshold set in P146?
2b) ... or should that depend on what kind of move, if any, is taking place at the moment?

i would say no, the knob threshold feed hold feature should not supported if there are both rapid override and feedrate override knobs, use feed hold button to feed hold in this case


3) F8/Graph drawing speed: should that be controlled by the rapid override knob, or only by the feedrate override knob?

only feedrate knob

4) Should jogging speeds be affected by the feedrate override, or by the rapid override?
only feedrate knob

5) Is there room to display two overrides and two white bar graphs in the status window? If not, which one should be displayed?

i think we can squeeze it on the screen somewhere, or use a PLC word to display it on the VCP to quickly implement and test.

first implementation of this feature will be with VCP controls.

Im soo looking forward to this. Gonna start making a newer pendant design now, so that i can have marc program switches for rapids.
Thank you so much for adding this!!!!!!