OAK 4x8 Router Build with ATC
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:33 pm
Good day All.
After a few months of combing through the forum, learning and asking newbie questions, I've finally gotten my Oak board and I want to document the process for those that come after me, AND have all the appropriate info in one place so Marty doesn't get cranky and yell at me.
The Plan:
Remove existing WINCNC control system from my fully functional Router. The machine has pretty good bones, but the controller is... lackluster at best. Before I decommission the working machine, I want to make sure I have as much figured out as possible to minimize downtime on a machine that runs a lot and pays a lot of my bills so I need to be VERY thoughtful in my build. My goal is to have the machine down for 7 days. If we don't have dreams what are we gunna crush right?
Oak Board with Pro license, ATC add on, and Wireless MPG. Probing and Tool Height measuring is still undecided. I've got both now, but they are NC so... I'm still wondering how much of a headache it will be to use them vs. buying new. I'll purchase the ProbeApp, and work with Swissi to determine the best path moving forward. (But that's a topic for another day.)
Hardware is:
-Mitsubishi MR-JE drives and motors.(3 phase AC drive power and 220AC logic power) X, Y, and Z with brake (paired Y on moving gantry)
4-Flying lead cables from Centroid and 4- 50 pin breakout boards for the other end, so I don't have to solder tiny little connectors and they plug directly into the CN1 port on the Drives. Ebay, and China for the win!
-CNCDepot, FM30C 24,000 RPM ATC with ceramic bearings 2.2Kw
-Hitachi WJ200 VFD.
-10-15 tool fixed rack ATC at end of machine.(non-moving and I still have to build it. The machine currently uses manual tool changes.)
-Dust Collection, Vacuum hold-down, locating pins, and (a retractable dust shroud via pneumatics I have to design and build.)
-Used Dell CNCPC I got on E-bay and yes, it meets the Centroid requirements.
-Used 19" ELO capacitive touch monitor. Go EBAY!
-Used 30 x 42 x 12, control cabinet to be wall mounted by machine.
-Monitor, CNCCPU and keyboard on swivel arm with MPG by machine that I need to design and make
Before I got too much deeper into the build, I changed a couple parameters that were SUPER helpful:
Parameter 4, changed to 8 (opens Windows-style File Open dialog) WAY easier for me.
Parameter 42, changed to 54 (eliminates the need for a password to make parameter edits. I'm the only person to use the machine so I'm ok turning this off)
I'm going to follow the Minimum OAK wiring diagram. I don't see a need to overcomplicate things if I don't have to. The only big change I intend to do is use 24VDC for all control voltage, NOT 24VAC. I am using OAK power supply for only the OAK. A second larger wattage DIN rail unit will be for all others, including the H2 Oak input. (Someone yell at me if that's a bad idea please.)
I also picked up a used Mitsubishi Drive and Motor off of Ebay for next to nothing for bench testing the servos, before hooking up the actual machine motors. I think that will prove to be a good idea.
I've been using SkyCAD Free for my schematics and I like it a lot! Worth a look if you're in the market for a powerful free drawing tool for the wiring.
https://skycad.ca/
I had several manuals printed and bound for the build. I like hard copies that I can put tabs on, and highlight. I had good luck and decent pricing with Best Value Copy. (But DAMN... know I know why companies don't include manuals anymore! They're spendy to make)
https://www.bestvaluecopy.com/
I think that's about it for now. Below are links to the previous posts I've started here in the forum as I've been learning stuff. Have a look if you're interested in some basic principles and practices others have shared with me.
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5702&p=48772#p48772 (Limit Switches, Probing and More Newbie)
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5612&p=48041#p48041 (Choosing Position, Torque, or Speed Mode)
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5415&p=46247#p46247 (Control Cabinet Wiring, Best Practices)
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5357&p=45732#p45732 (My first goofy post)
If I end up asking specific questions that warrant a dedicated post, I'll try to link it here as well.
Attached below are the Manuals for the Mitsubishi Drives: and
and Hitachi VFD: Thanks in advance for anyone who chooses to offer help and guidance on my journey! I truly can't do this without you all.
After a few months of combing through the forum, learning and asking newbie questions, I've finally gotten my Oak board and I want to document the process for those that come after me, AND have all the appropriate info in one place so Marty doesn't get cranky and yell at me.
The Plan:
Remove existing WINCNC control system from my fully functional Router. The machine has pretty good bones, but the controller is... lackluster at best. Before I decommission the working machine, I want to make sure I have as much figured out as possible to minimize downtime on a machine that runs a lot and pays a lot of my bills so I need to be VERY thoughtful in my build. My goal is to have the machine down for 7 days. If we don't have dreams what are we gunna crush right?
Oak Board with Pro license, ATC add on, and Wireless MPG. Probing and Tool Height measuring is still undecided. I've got both now, but they are NC so... I'm still wondering how much of a headache it will be to use them vs. buying new. I'll purchase the ProbeApp, and work with Swissi to determine the best path moving forward. (But that's a topic for another day.)
Hardware is:
-Mitsubishi MR-JE drives and motors.(3 phase AC drive power and 220AC logic power) X, Y, and Z with brake (paired Y on moving gantry)
4-Flying lead cables from Centroid and 4- 50 pin breakout boards for the other end, so I don't have to solder tiny little connectors and they plug directly into the CN1 port on the Drives. Ebay, and China for the win!
-CNCDepot, FM30C 24,000 RPM ATC with ceramic bearings 2.2Kw
-Hitachi WJ200 VFD.
-10-15 tool fixed rack ATC at end of machine.(non-moving and I still have to build it. The machine currently uses manual tool changes.)
-Dust Collection, Vacuum hold-down, locating pins, and (a retractable dust shroud via pneumatics I have to design and build.)
-Used Dell CNCPC I got on E-bay and yes, it meets the Centroid requirements.
-Used 19" ELO capacitive touch monitor. Go EBAY!
-Used 30 x 42 x 12, control cabinet to be wall mounted by machine.
-Monitor, CNCCPU and keyboard on swivel arm with MPG by machine that I need to design and make
Before I got too much deeper into the build, I changed a couple parameters that were SUPER helpful:
Parameter 4, changed to 8 (opens Windows-style File Open dialog) WAY easier for me.
Parameter 42, changed to 54 (eliminates the need for a password to make parameter edits. I'm the only person to use the machine so I'm ok turning this off)
I'm going to follow the Minimum OAK wiring diagram. I don't see a need to overcomplicate things if I don't have to. The only big change I intend to do is use 24VDC for all control voltage, NOT 24VAC. I am using OAK power supply for only the OAK. A second larger wattage DIN rail unit will be for all others, including the H2 Oak input. (Someone yell at me if that's a bad idea please.)
I also picked up a used Mitsubishi Drive and Motor off of Ebay for next to nothing for bench testing the servos, before hooking up the actual machine motors. I think that will prove to be a good idea.
I've been using SkyCAD Free for my schematics and I like it a lot! Worth a look if you're in the market for a powerful free drawing tool for the wiring.
https://skycad.ca/
I had several manuals printed and bound for the build. I like hard copies that I can put tabs on, and highlight. I had good luck and decent pricing with Best Value Copy. (But DAMN... know I know why companies don't include manuals anymore! They're spendy to make)
https://www.bestvaluecopy.com/
I think that's about it for now. Below are links to the previous posts I've started here in the forum as I've been learning stuff. Have a look if you're interested in some basic principles and practices others have shared with me.
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5702&p=48772#p48772 (Limit Switches, Probing and More Newbie)
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5612&p=48041#p48041 (Choosing Position, Torque, or Speed Mode)
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5415&p=46247#p46247 (Control Cabinet Wiring, Best Practices)
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5357&p=45732#p45732 (My first goofy post)
If I end up asking specific questions that warrant a dedicated post, I'll try to link it here as well.
Attached below are the Manuals for the Mitsubishi Drives: and
and Hitachi VFD: Thanks in advance for anyone who chooses to offer help and guidance on my journey! I truly can't do this without you all.