M400S Power up (Resolved)

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M400S Power up (Resolved)

Post by RLW »

My 220 is not hooked yet so been powering up the M400S with the 110.
I’ve noticed after powering there has been a delay then I hear a relay or a switch and the panel powers up. Tonight I could not power the panel. Fan is running on enclosure so I’ve got power in.

Is there a relay or switching unit that activates the panel/cpu?
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Re: M400S Power up

Post by tblough »

The relay is the estop contractor. It will not engage if the estop button is pushed in or you have a fault condition - something we could see from a report.

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Re: ***READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING*** Report.zip, Photos are required.

Post by RLW »

To get the report file I should just
Try powering the panel with 110 from the wall?

I should note the only difference in the power ups is that last time the spindle was fully extended when shut down. I had a
Problem with x+ Limit switch when I got it but it would still wake the panel.
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Re: ***READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING*** Report.zip, Photos are required.

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Accupath ACCU II.
M400S serial 20334
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Re: M400S Power up

Post by cncsnw »

It is not quite clear what you mean by "the panel" and "the enclosure" in your original post.

"Panel" could mean the electrical control panel located in the gray control cabinet on the back of the machine; or it could mean the LCD display panel and/or jog key panel, built into the operator console on the arm.

"Enclosure" could mean the gray control cabinet on the back of the machine; or it could mean the black outer enclosure of the operator console; or it could mean the anozided inner PC enclosure inside the operator console.

I am going to guess that what you mean is that the 120VAC cabinet cooling fan in the door of the gray control cabinet comes on; but the 12VDC cooling fan in the back panel of the operator console does not come on, and you either do not see any display at all on the LCD screen, or you see only a message similar to "no signal, going to sleep".

If that is the case, then you either need to replace the battery on the motherboard and momentarily short the motherboards power-button pins to get it to start up; or you have a dead micro-ATX power supply in the console. For the former issue, see http://www.cncsnw.com/Motherboards.htm#MS7095 and related Centroid tech bulletins, such as https://www.centroidcnc.com/dealersuppo ... ds/272.pdf.
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Re: M400S Power up

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Panel I mean operator contriol. Enclosure is the disconnect panel and DC 310 enclosure

You nailed it. I’m going to do the battery thing. I tried the fan jumper on the power supply and it ran for 20 minutes befor I shut it down.
UVC LED. What is this?

One of the other things we tracked were wires like 34-38 (from memory) One of these runs to rly 1 and rly 2. We found that rly 1 was closed but rly 2 seems open.

Machine is new to me and CNC too. I was
In the operator panel the other night for a couple hours and was fine. I did notice that when powering up the machine disconnect, that there was some delay and I could hear what sounded like a
Relay kicking in or out and then the op panel would come
To life.
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Re: M400S Power up

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RLW wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:08 pm Panel I mean operator contriol. Enclosure is the disconnect panel and DC 310 enclosure

You nailed it. I’m going to do the battery thing. I tried the fan jumper on the power supply and it ran for 20 minutes befor I shut it down.
UVC LED. What is this?

One of the other things we tracked were wires like 34-38 (from memory) One of these runs to rly 1 and rly 2. We found that rly 1 was closed but rly 2 seems open.

Machine is new to me and CNC too. I was
In the operator panel the other night for a couple hours and was fine. I did notice that when powering up the machine disconnect, that there was some delay and I could hear what sounded like a
Relay kicking in or out and then the op panel would come
To life.
Your statement: "One of the other things we tracked were wires like 34-38 (from memory) One of these runs to rly 1 and rly 2. We found that rly 1 was closed but rly 2 seems open. "
is not much use without a schematic to see what you are referring to.
I assume you got a schematic with the control and understand how to read it?

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Re: M400S Power up

Post by martyscncgarage »

Also, once you get the control up, post fresh reports with your questions. F7 Utilities menu
Your pictures you posted are too small (low resolution) so we can't click on them to see any detail.
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Re: M400S Power up

Post by RLW »

Replaced CMOS battery. Came up no input signal. While in the CPU I noticed the heat sink fan looked weird. Turns out the upper right clip had broken and nothing to hand on to. Pulled fan and heat sink, Chip fell out of socket. Reinstalled and zip tied the upper part of the sink and fan to hold thinks tite. Everything now working.
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Re: M400S Power up

Post by martyscncgarage »

RLW wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:19 pm Replaced CMOS battery. Came up no input signal. While in the CPU I noticed the heat sink fan looked weird. Turns out the upper right clip had broken and nothing to hand on to. Pulled fan and heat sink, Chip fell out of socket. Reinstalled and zip tied the upper part of the sink and fan to hold thinks tite. Everything now working.
Great, thanks for letting us know you are up and running.
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