AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

All things related to the Centroid Acorn CNC Controller

Moderator: cnckeith

tblough
Posts: 3103
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:03 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: Yes
Oak CNC controller: Yes
CNC Control System Serial Number: 100505
100327
102696
103432
7804732B977B-0624192192
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No
Location: Boston, MA
Contact:

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by tblough »

Those variables will only change when the encoder is sitting on the index mark. You will need to check the variable when the asterisk is showing on the PID screen.
Cheers,

Tom
Confidence is the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.
I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are where they should be.
RC-Lights
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:20 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: No
Oak CNC controller: No
CNC Control System Serial Number: 0008DC111213-1005220061
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by RC-Lights »

Hi Tom,

Is that really true? the lathe Operation manual says, that These variable will contain the number of counts of the last index pulse.
edited_Screenshot_2024-04-09-23-09-07-459_com.adobe.reader.jpg
Michael
RC-Lights
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:20 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: No
Oak CNC controller: No
CNC Control System Serial Number: 0008DC111213-1005220061
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by RC-Lights »

no idea ?

i saw, that in the latest manual for PLC programming these variables are not listet. Are they kind of new and is there maybe a bug ?

Michael
cncsnw
Posts: 3857
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:48 pm

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by cncsnw »

Tom was probably thinking you meant #23401-#23408.

Just out of curiosity, do #23401 and #23402 change state on your system, corresponding to whether or not the asterisk is showing?

Yes, I think #25101-#25108 are relatively new. Presumably they were added to avoid the awkward timing issues you get when you try to use #23401-#23408. Perhaps the new variables have not been fully implemented on Acorn.
tblough
Posts: 3103
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:03 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: Yes
Oak CNC controller: Yes
CNC Control System Serial Number: 100505
100327
102696
103432
7804732B977B-0624192192
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No
Location: Boston, MA
Contact:

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by tblough »

Just one point I'm sure you are aware of. The X-axis will not have an index pulse. The index pulse will be on whatever axis the SCALE is attached to.
Cheers,

Tom
Confidence is the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.
I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are where they should be.
RC-Lights
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:20 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: No
Oak CNC controller: No
CNC Control System Serial Number: 0008DC111213-1005220061
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by RC-Lights »

cncsnw wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:49 pm Tom was probably thinking you meant #23401-#23408.

Just out of curiosity, do #23401 and #23402 change state on your system, corresponding to whether or not the asterisk is showing?

Yes, I think #25101-#25108 are relatively new. Presumably they were added to avoid the awkward timing issues you get when you try to use #23401-#23408. Perhaps the new variables have not been fully implemented on Acorn.

Yes, probably He means #23401-#23408

I have to Check, if These variable changes, good idea. But from my understanding it World be really difficult to built a precise Homing macro with it.
tblough wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:14 pm Just one point I'm sure you are aware of. The X-axis will not have an index pulse. The index pulse will be on whatever axis the SCALE is attached to.
Of course i have scales on Z and X Axis and they are configured in the Wizard and the closed loop System works well. To avoid a mistake i checked All of the variables from 25101 - 25108 and they are all -1.
RC-Lights
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:20 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: No
Oak CNC controller: No
CNC Control System Serial Number: 0008DC111213-1005220061
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by RC-Lights »

hi all, i want do give a small update:

the ZRI Homing process is working now ! very happy about it.

but i need to use a workaround. since the RS422 Signal cannot switch an Input and the variable in Acorn is not written from the INdex pulse, i use an little Optocoupler transistor from 5V to 24V to switch an Input on and off when reaching the Index Pulse.


this is working great and i wrote a homing makro and everything is fine now. thank you for your support.
killacam
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:14 pm
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: No
Oak CNC controller: No
CNC Control System Serial Number: none
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by killacam »

RC-Lights wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:41 am hi all, i want do give a small update:

the ZRI Homing process is working now ! very happy about it.

but i need to use a workaround. since the RS422 Signal cannot switch an Input and the variable in Acorn is not written from the INdex pulse, i use an little Optocoupler transistor from 5V to 24V to switch an Input on and off when reaching the Index Pulse.


this is working great and i wrote a homing makro and everything is fine now. thank you for your support.
Thanks or posting this & the amazon link - I am going down a similar path but with a closed loop stepper motor that has a 3 pole encoder without a drive that supports Zri homing signals - I am looking at the CNC4PC C87 Encoder Index Homing Board to help integrate the Z signal - not sure if you looked at that option or if that board will do what i think it will do
cnckeith
Posts: 7348
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:23 pm
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: Yes
Oak CNC controller: Yes
CNC Control System Serial Number: none
DC3IOB: Yes
CNC11: Yes
CPU10 or CPU7: Yes
Contact:

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by cnckeith »

thanks for reporting back
Need support? READ THIS POST first. http://centroidcncforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1043
All Acorn Documentation is located here: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=3397
Answers to common questions: viewforum.php?f=63
and here viewforum.php?f=61
Gear we use but don't sell. https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... _gear.html
RC-Lights
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:20 am
Acorn CNC Controller: Yes
Allin1DC CNC Controller: No
Oak CNC controller: No
CNC Control System Serial Number: 0008DC111213-1005220061
DC3IOB: No
CNC12: Yes
CNC11: No
CPU10 or CPU7: No

Re: AcornSix - Zri Homing with linear scales

Post by RC-Lights »

https://youtube.com/shorts/wuulF71HwA4? ... 6oRPEjjFni

Here a short Video how accurate the Homing process is now
Post Reply