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suntravel wrote: New V5 Demo/offline crashes if I want to config Motor, both lathe and mill.

Uwe

Following Uwe's example, I have discovered a possible error in setting up a Metric Job on a Lathe in Imperial configuration.

Intercon does not appear to output a G21 but remains in G20 inches. Also note that the Graphing, and therefore toolpath, is different between the IMP and Metric version - The start and finish (Red rapids) of the IMP is correct but the Metric version is clearly not

Note: This applies to BOTH offline Demo v5.0 and live Pro v5.0. I attach copies of both LTH and CNC files produced on the live machine within minutes of each other

Usual report also attached in case this helps

Nigel

Edited to say that manually correcting G20 in the G code header to G21 corrects the program and the apparent toolpath / graphing

CNC12 v5.02 has been released. 5-19-23

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v5.02 Release Notes

1.) Fixed Acorn/AcornSix Wizard ATC menu bug where it would not remember settings if it wasn’t an integer. Also, added selection for fixed or not fixed TT for Rack Mount “Maintain Tool Offset Library” selection in the ATC Wizard setup menu to tell the CNC12 tool library auto measure F key to used fixed TT location or not.

2.) Improved Acorn/AcornSix Rack Mount ATC macros. Improved macros automatically check to see if any of these inputs are assigned and uses them if they are.

Inputs: DrawBarReleased or ToolisUnclamped, SpindleIsOriented, VFDZeroSpeed,, PressureLowMessage or PressureLowStop or ATCAirPressureOk (recommend ATCAirPressureOK for ATC applications).


Outputs: Orient Spindle, UnclampTool and ATCAirBlowActivate

The Wizard generated v5.02 ATC macros work with any combination of these Input and outputs, and even no inputs or outputs at all!


3.) Added spindle cooling fan delta timer to the Wizard (P997). This delay timer works automatically in conjunction with the output “SpindleCoolingFan” and will keep the fan on for what ever amount of time is specified.

4.) Fixed an issue where laser ballscrew (position) compensation was only working for the first three axes.

5.) Added Plasma Cutter compatibility additions in plasma macros for support of Everlast and Primeweld cutters.

6.) Updated Plasma profiles to support Arc Ok for non-hypertherm cutters.

7.) Fixed a bug where Plasma Restart Mode would not use commanded feedrates when resuming a job.

8.) Options screen reinstated to Oak, Allin1DC and MPU11 installations which was accidentally omitted in v5.0

9.) Deprecated Skinning call Job.GetUserVolatileSystemVariable. Added Skinning calls Job.GetUserSystemVariable (#100-#159, #29000-#31999) and Job.GetUserStringSystemVariable (#300-#399) This is better because now this gives access to all user variables.

10.) Plasma Intercon graph will now zoom towards the center of the graph, rather than towards (0,0) and added option to ‘flip’ x y for viewing the way the user would like to see the display.

11.) Fixed Plasma screen flicker when using keyboard jogging.

12.) Improved the M44 Surface Plate macro to be more robust.

13.) Added support for WMPG-6+ in the stock Oak and Allin1DC standard PLC programs. Updating the stock ATC PLC programs is still in progress and will be committed in next release. (user can always edit their own as well)

14.) Reinstated "Trail On" in Plasma in Run time graphics

Updating from 5 to 5.02 will be ok with restore report?

Uwe

suntravel wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 12:06 am Updating from 5 to 5.02 will be ok with restore report?

Uwe

If you're not using or do not want any of the features
that have associated PLC program changes and or parameters new or modified that are listed on the release notes, you can restore report. Otherwise, do a fresh install and configure as usual to have a fully functioning 5.02

Hello Mr keith my question is why when i created a a job on the intercom and created the G code them i posted the tool post movement start front rear to the front to move tu cut but no cutting action cuz is going out cuttin insted of in cutting what am i doing wron Mr keith help please?

ajcnc3245 wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:13 am Hello Mr keith my question is why when i created a a job on the intercom and created the G code them i posted the tool post movement start front rear to the front to move tu cut but no cutting action cuz is going out cuttin insted of in cutting what am i doing wron Mr keith help please?

ok really need more info to help, and you should start a new thread.
i would guess that you have a lathe?
sounds like you are running feed per rev and need encoder feedback for that to work. if so, choose feed per minute if you don't have an encoder.

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Nigelo wrote:Following Uwe's example, I have discovered a possible error in setting up a Metric Job on a Lathe in Imperial configuration.

Intercon does not appear to output a G21 but remains in G20 inches. Also note that the Graphing, and therefore toolpath, is different between the IMP and Metric version - The start and finish (Red rapids) of the IMP is correct but the Metric version is clearly not

Note: This applies to BOTH offline Demo v5.0 and live Pro v5.0. I attach copies of both LTH and CNC files produced on the live machine within minutes of each other

Usual report also attached in case this helps

Nigel

Edited to say that manually correcting G20 in the G code header to G21 corrects the program and the apparent toolpath / graphing

hello.
when CNC12 is set to inches, Intercon outputs Inches.
when CNC12 is set to metric, Intercon outputs millimeters

cnckeith wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 1:59 pm hello.
when CNC12 is set to inches, Intercon outputs Inches.
when CNC12 is set to metric, Intercon outputs millimeters

Thanks Keith that's taken as read but perhaps I was not sufficiently clear.

Lathe CNC12 setup and calibrated in inches
Intercon setup in inches as this is my usual requirement and the default for above

To machine the ocassional one-off metric jobs, change Intercon setup to metric as follows and all works fine as expected:
However, we can also toggle (using spacebar) individual Intercon job headers from Inches to metric and vice versa as follows:
There is no warning, either within Intercon or in the Manual, that this does NOT change G20 to G21 or vice versa in the generated G-code as could be expected.

Since my original post, I note this is not restricted to CNC12 v5.x but was also there in Offline back to v4.18 and live back to at least v4.82 on both Lathe and Mill.

Could you therefore consider a small advisory in the manual's Intercon section and/or perform an updated G20/G21 in output G-code to be consistent where the Intercon Header Units differ from the Intercon Setup. Alteratively, a warning to the user in the form of a popup when toggling the Header Units might be appropriate.

This is not meant as any kind of criticism, just my observations in case it helps - or my 2 cents as you say.

ps: Thanks again for the excellent work with v5.02 which installed without probs on all 3 of my machines

Nigelo wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 8:08 am

cnckeith wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 1:59 pm hello.
when CNC12 is set to inches, Intercon outputs Inches.
when CNC12 is set to metric, Intercon outputs millimeters

Thanks Keith that's taken as read but perhaps I was not sufficiently clear.

Lathe CNC12 setup and calibrated in inches
Intercon setup in inches as this is my usual requirement and the default for above

To machine the ocassional one-off metric jobs, change Intercon setup to metric as follows and all works fine as expected:

Intercon Setup.JPG

However, we can also toggle (using spacebar) individual Intercon job headers from Inches to metric and vice versa as follows:

Intercon Job Inches to Metric.JPG

There is no warning, either within Intercon or in the Manual, that this does NOT change G20 to G21 or vice versa in the generated G-code as could be expected.

Since my original post, I note this is not restricted to CNC12 v5.x but was also there in Offline back to v4.18 and live back to at least v4.82 on both Lathe and Mill.

Could you therefore consider a small advisory in the manual's Intercon section and/or perform an updated G20/G21 in output G-code to be consistent where the Intercon Header Units differ from the Intercon Setup. Alteratively, a warning to the user in the form of a popup when toggling the Header Units might be appropriate.

This is not meant as any kind of criticism, just my observations in case it helps - or my 2 cents as you say.

ps: Thanks again for the excellent work with v5.02 which installed without probs on all 3 of my machines

thanks for the clarification, i did not realize you were changing it in the header, will look into it. -k

Acorn v5.02 limit switch defeat VCP button got broken.

we were working on making things the same between Acorn and AcornSix and the Acorn limit defeat button got broken but it is and easy fix. applies to Acorn ONLY (not AcornSix)

If your Limit Switch Defeat button is not working, open the limit defeat button XML file and change the skin even number from 67 to 25

<vcp_button>
<skin_event_num>25</skin_event_num>
<plc_output>
<number>1109</number>
<color_on>#EC1C24</color_on>
<color_off>#81151C</color_off>
</plc_output>
</vcp_button>

save the file.

restart cnc12