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Lathe Tool offsets

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:06 am
by DLAM
All,

I have been using my Acorn equipped lathe with 8 position turret for some time and am very impressed with ACORN and CNC12 software. I have notice that tool offsets change. I have an optical eyepiece used to set the tools and the offsets. I will set all 8 tools for a job and then run multiple parts of the job. At the end of the day I reference to zero and shut the machine down. Start up the next day reference to zero. I will check all tools and the offsets are slightly off. If I check the offset at the end of the day before shutting down the offsets are correct. I use tool 1 as my master tool then set the other to that tool. The position for tool 1 will be slightly off because mounting the optical eye piece to the spindle housing and I expect that. The offsets for the remaining tools are slightly different (varies but up to .010ā€) and is not consistent with each tool. I do not move or remove the optical eye piece until I set all tools. The Lathe runs great and holds tolerance well as long as I check tool offset and ā€œZā€ zero every day at power up (but that is time I would like not to have to spend).
Has anyone seen something like this? Is it a mechanical problem, hardware problem or software problem? I am running Acorn Board, DYN4 SERVOs, CNC12 V4.5, Report is attached as well as picture of the optical eye piece.
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Re: Lathe Tool offsets

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:28 am
by vw_chuck
What is the repeatability of your optical eye? What is the accuracy of your optical eye?
Do you use the optical eye to set your part x and Z with tool number 1 at the start of your machining?

Re: Lathe Tool offsets

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:36 am
by tblough
Can you also describe how your machine homes? The tool offset error could be due to homing variances plus repeatability errors on the optical positioner movement.

Re: Lathe Tool offsets

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:03 am
by vw_chuck
I would never use the homing switches to set my X,Z zeros as they are never repeatable unless you have like a 1000 dollar sensor with repeatability to .00001 in. I ALWAYS make a test cut with my reference tool to set my part x and Z zero. All other tool offsets are referenced to the reference tool and should never change unless something moved or is falling apart on the tool post.

Re: Lathe Tool offsets

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:12 pm
by DLAM
The machine homes to a proximity sensor (15 ipm) then it indexes to a ZRI pulse in the servos at (.001 ipm). The repeatability for the optical eye piece is probably about .1". I only use the eye piece to set the tool offsets not to set any work piece or machine position. The repeatability (or lack of) for the eye piece I don't think is an issue. when i use the eye piece I set tool 1 and record x and y position. I then check everything against that position and never touch the eye piece until I am completed. All Tools offset then should be relative to tool 1. The accuracy for the eye piece is easily with in .0005".

Re: Lathe Tool offsets

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:14 pm
by DLAM
the accuracy of the eye piece against the tool is easily .0005" when mounting the eyepiece that repeatability on the spindle housing is about .1". reading it back I just wanted to clarify.