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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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Nevermind to the previous post about touch probe not working. I edited the post.. turns out I just had to run a jumped wire from the 24VDC in to the H9 section port 4 and it works now.

Spindle still not powering up or spinning. I am not really sure what is wrong here. Kind of stressing about that
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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bump
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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Not sure what to say or suggest since I can't see what you see. You say not powering up. The VFD not powering up? If it was working on a Mach system, you probably didn't need to program anything and just not what wires went to the old Mach breakout board and what their functions were.

Sketch out how you have the VFD wired and connected to Acorn and post it here.
You either have a wiring or a VFD programming issue.

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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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I will get on that asap and post in a few
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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Anything in RED means I ran a wire already from VFD to the controller. The salmon colored wire on the left side is just a jumper wire as the probe wiring schematics had asked me to do.

I noted on the right hand side of this photo that there is one 10V wire that is not connected to anything that used to be connected to the SPINDLE CATEGORY and in the MACH3 manual it was called DC 10V INPUT. Maybe this wire needs to go somewhere like the SPINDLE OK port on the acorn board, but I dont have anything currently in the SPINDLEOK port, but the acorn schematics didnt really tell me where. Maybe you can tell a problem with my wiring so I noted each individual wire with the corresponding port its labelled on the VFD as. I also posted a photo of the VFD so its easier to see along side my drawn on schematic. Losing my mind on this and worried i gotta rip all wires out and go back to MACH3 so I can get my shop back up and running
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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DO NOT connect the 10v from the VFD anywhere. As I believe I previously mentioned, Acorn supplies the 0-10vdc signal.
Late here.

I will give you a link to testing your VFD in the morning....
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

Post by martyscncgarage »

I found the link:
https://centroidcncforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=2446

Disconnect the VFD from Acorn and test it as outlined in the video. Use a simple 1.5vdc battery across the 0-10vdc VFD input - to ACM and positive to AVI
Then jumper using a wire from ACM(VFD common) and your Forward terminal. Power up the VFD and the spindle motor should run in the forward direction provided you have it programmed correctly
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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When my VFD is powered on it Just flashes H and says 0. Before when I clicked the Spindle to start on CNC12 it said H 15.0

That was before some wiring changes so not sure it still does that or not anymore. Ill go ahead and try this video and update my results.
I wish I could get the touch probe working though and ill need to digitize before cutting anyways but hey.. two things to work on i guess if i get stuck on one



I guess one question I do have is where does the SPINDLEOK get its wire from
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

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I went through the whole menu and typed these down... I really really hope this helps.

I also found if i hit the >>> button on the VFD the spindle starts to spin real slow and it says F 5.0

p000 :5KW/380V
p001: motor rated current 11
p002: motor rated voltage 220v(380v)
p003: motor rated frequency :400
p004: motor load current 40
p007: torque upgrade 1%
p012: starting frequency 5.0
p013: starting delay : 0
p014: stop mode 0
p015: dc braking starting freq. 5.0
p016: prestart braking time: 0
p017: stop braking time: 0
p018 dc braking voltage: 5
p021: max frequency: 400
p022: min. operating freq: 0
p023: min output freq: 1.0
p025: keyboard jog control : 1
p026: jog freq : 5.0
p030: first freq: 0

then i skipped the p0XX codes for
First freq
2nd freq
3rd freq
4th freq
fifth freq
6th, 7th, 8th,

accel time, decel time 1
accel time 2 decel time 2
accel time 3 decel time 3



p053 analog output select : 0 output ffreq of analog inverter 0 --- maximum freq corresponds 0-10v

p054 min analog corresponds to output: 0
p055: the maximum : 10v
p056: start display selection: 0 (frequency H, F)
p057: speed freq. ratio: 60
p058: carrier freq.: 7k
p059: desired freq. attained: 0
p064: freq. command source setting: 3 - Control Panel digital setting, automatically switch to 4 if detected 0-10v signal from AVI terminal
p065: 1 - externam terminal control (forward/stop, reversal/stop)
p066: steering control: 2 - can forward and reversal if running command is forward, the motor output is forward: If running command is reversal the motor output is reversal. Used to set direction of the motor, automatic memory after power failure. Forward and reversal trigger function will change this parameter
P067: reversion control: 1 -- allow motor reversal

p070: special function 2: 4010
p071: fault record 1: 5 --Overload (oL)
p072: fault history 2 : 1-- Serious overcurrent
p073: fault history 3: 1-- serious overcurrent
p077: torque motor voltage limit: 40
p078: middle voltage: 0
p088: Braking: Setting range: 360V
p089: response points against overvoltage: 380V
p090: response points against overcurrent: 150


p091: X1 function selection: 8 --FORWARD
p092: x2 funct: 1-- first multi-speed (attached table 1)
p093: x3 funct: 2-- second multi-speed (attached table 1)
p094: x4 funct: 3-- third multi-speed(attached table 1)
p095: x5 funct: 1-- 1-- first multi-speed (attached table 1)
p096: x6 funct: 2--2-- second multi-speed (attached table 1)
p097: x7 funct: 3-- 3-- third multi-speed(attached table 1)

p098: x8 funct: I DONT HAVE A X8 on the VFD: 19 : 19 is external fault


p101: Y1 Function Selection: 4 -- FAULT
p102: Y2 funct. selection: 4 FAULT
P103: Y3 Funct selection: 4 FAULT
xxx
xxx
p106: AVI Analog Input Filter: 0.30
p107: ACI Analog Input Filter: 0.30
P108: Analog Input: 98%
p109: Analong input corresponding to minimum freq (PID min. target value) : 2%

p112: Run Mode: 0 -- Normal Operation
p113: PID Max Target Value: 10000
p114: PID Min Target Value: 0
p115: PID Maximum target value that corresponds to the amount of feedback : 100
p116: PID Min. target value coresponds to amount of feedback: 0
p117: ration coefficient: 1.00
p118: integral coefficient: 0.50
p119: differential coefficient: 0.00
p120: feedback sampling period: 0.3
p121: pid reference parameters: 2
p122: pid target value: 5000
p126: current count: 0
p127: count to present: 100
p128: count to warning: 90
p129: count to action selection: 0, close output:
p130: program run time limit: 0

skipped the first-eighth speed run time (p131-138

p139: First speed related paramters: 2 (others) can forward and reversal
p140-146 first-eighth speed related parameters
p150: communication settings: 301
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Re: cant figure out how to hookup, yes I read all docs

Post by martyscncgarage »

shreddedcurbs wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:14 am When my VFD is powered on it Just flashes H and says 0. Before when I clicked the Spindle to start on CNC12 it said H 15.0

That was before some wiring changes so not sure it still does that or not anymore. Ill go ahead and try this video and update my results.
I wish I could get the touch probe working though and ill need to digitize before cutting anyways but hey.. two things to work on i guess if i get stuck on one



I guess one question I do have is where does the SPINDLEOK get its wire from
Did you run the test as I suggested?

U suggest you make these parameter changes and rerun the battery/jumper test:
VFD Programming:
ONLY change these two Parameters
p064=1
p065=1
Retest with the battery and the jumper
1.5VDC battery across VFD COM (battery -), and VFD AVI (battery +)
Jumper from VFD COM to VFD X1 (Forward Terminal)
Power up the VFD
This alone with the VFD powered up should turn the spindle on in the forward direction and spin relatively slowly.
Let us know

Marty
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