Is it feasible, or has anyone used the KP-3 to inspect finished dimensions IN a cam program as a specific tool path/op? I know Fusion and Solid Works can do this, but will the KP-3 play along? I did a cursory search and didn't see much info. I know the you can Probe/Digitize in CNC12 and with other third party "Apps," but I'm inquiring if I can use the Probe as just another tool( in this case an inspection tool) inside Fusion 360 CAM?
Re: Inspection Probing in CAM (Fusion/SolidWorks/etc.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:13 am
by tblough
Sure you can. All of the Centroid probe routines (and Swissi's probe app) are just g-code.
Re: Inspection Probing in CAM (Fusion/SolidWorks/etc.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:50 pm
by Muzzer
But can your wallet handle it? The "finished work" probing your refer to requires you to buy their blessed "extensions" which come in at something like $200/month and expire after 30 days. Are you ready for that?
There is a simple probe function included in the free/paid version but it only allows you to pick up a WCS feature such as a face or corner. You can get that and better from Swissi's app anyway, without building it into your g code.
Re: Inspection Probing in CAM (Fusion/SolidWorks/etc.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:38 am
by WVDualsport
Muzzer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:50 pm
But can your wallet handle it? The "finished work" probing your refer to requires you to buy their blessed "extensions" which come in at something like $200/month and expire after 30 days. Are you ready for that?
There is a simple probe function included in the free/paid version but it only allows you to pick up a WCS feature such as a face or corner. You can get that and better from Swissi's app anyway, without building it into your g code.
Even automating the probing for G54, G55, etc., would be a benefit. There are also a few things you can do in Fusion without the machining extension that will let you verify machined dimensions as a probing op that falls short of their non-prismatic probing and part alignment, etc. Swissi has a video on YT showing this functionality. I just have some questions as to how to go about setting it up.
I mean, to use the probe to pick up G54, G55, etc., you'd have to previously probe the corner of a fixture, or pallet, etc. and set a Gsomething to give the machine some Idea of where to start.
Re: Inspection Probing in CAM (Fusion/SolidWorks/etc.
Muzzer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:50 pm
But can your wallet handle it? The "finished work" probing your refer to requires you to buy their blessed "extensions" which come in at something like $200/month and expire after 30 days. Are you ready for that?
There is a simple probe function included in the free/paid version but it only allows you to pick up a WCS feature such as a face or corner. You can get that and better from Swissi's app anyway, without building it into your g code.
Even automating the probing for G54, G55, etc., would be a benefit. There are also a few things you can do in Fusion without the machining extension that will let you verify machined dimensions as a probing op that falls short of their non-prismatic probing and part alignment, etc. Swissi has a video on YT showing this functionality. I just have some questions as to how to go about setting it up.
I mean, to use the probe to pick up G54, G55, etc., you'd have to previously probe the corner of a fixture, or pallet, etc. and set a Gsomething to give the machine some Idea of where to start.
If you are using Fusion 360 Probing you need a Post Processor that can handle the Probing Commands and even then, the Post Processor will just generate Gcode like this:
Those P.... subroutines do not exist for CNC12, that's why I have created them. You will need my version of the CNC12 specific Fusion 360 Post Processor and my Fusion 360 Probing Package for CNC12.
Here's a Youtube video showing the Fusion 360 Probing Cycles in action:
-swissi
Re: Inspection Probing in CAM (Fusion/SolidWorks/etc.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:43 pm
by Muzzer
I'm confused. Apart from the lack of support in the official post for the probing operations, the geometry probing operations are all inside the mrg extensions. How can you generate the geometry probing operations, whether or not the Swissi post is installed?
The OP was asking how "to inspect finished dimensions IN a cam program" such as Fusion 360. If you can show me how to do this, I will have learned something really useful!