Houseman303 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:04 pm
the problem of touching is solved. What's annoying is that I have to start the ProbeApp from the mdi. I added the M58 button to the virtual jog panel. But I can't get any further because oak plc is structured differently than acorn plc. My biggest problem is the probe detect and tt detect query, which I don't need and have to laboriously create in order to use probe and tt.
There are many OAK ProbeApp user that have no problem with starting the ProbeApp from the VCP. Just adding the M58 Button to the VCP is not enough. You also must configure the CNC12 parameter that corresponds to that AUX button to launch the mfunc58.mac macro when pressed.
In this example, the M58 button is on AUX15:
I have no idea what problem you are having with the Probe and TT detect query you mentioned. Can you please elaborate what the issue is?
-swissi
If you are using Fusion 360, check out my CNC12 specific Post Processor
If you are using a Touch Probe, Tool Touch Off Device or a Triple Corner Finder Plate, check out my ProbeApp
Without active probe detect you cannot use the probe. It has to be laboriously activated via a relay. But don't forget to turn it off, otherwise G64 won't work. detect must also not be active for probe and tt at the same time. relay is currently switched via the work light relay.
When wired correctly, probe detects when a probe is plugged in. This in turn inhibits the spindle and large jogging moves to protect the probe. I have one knee mill and two bed mills each equipped with dp4 probes and tt1 tool height measurement devices. They work together as designed without additional relays and switches.
It would appear that you have a wiring issue.
Cheers,
Tom
Confidence is the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.
I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are where they should be.
tblough wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:14 am
When wired correctly, probe detects when a probe is plugged in. This in turn inhibits the spindle and large jogging moves to protect the probe. I have one knee mill and two bed mills each equipped with dp4 probes and tt1 tool height measurement devices. They work together as designed without additional relays and switches.
Houseman303 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:14 am
Without active probe detect you cannot use the probe. It has to be laboriously activated via a relay. But don't forget to turn it off, otherwise G64 won't work. detect must also not be active for probe and tt at the same time. relay is currently switched via the work light relay.
I gave you several possible solutions to this issue in one of your threads. The simplest is toggle switches to short the detect inputs to ground when using the probe or TT. It is not an automatic solution but it is better than having to go and unplug things after probing.
Automatic detection of wireless probes is a nontrivial problem.
Tom is correct, I also have a probe and it's not a dp4 (it's a Chinese model) and it's wired without any relays or switches and CNC12 detects it as soon as I plug it in.
I have my probe and my movable tool touch off both wired with a 5 pin DIN connector on the cable. They both plug in to the same 5 pin DIN receptacle mounted on the machine. The probe has one extra pin jumped to ground that trips my "probe detect" input once it's plugged in.
I don't know if its pertinent and I haven't got there yet to test it, but I was planning to use a SW Detect with a wireless probe? Assign Probe to a tool #, Pick tool #, SW triggers the detect Input, select different tool #, SW releases the Input sort of thing? Not sure where I saw it, might have been this thread?
Edit: It wasn't this thread, but it was Swissi's idea. Attached is a pertinent snip from the old thread I saw it in in case anybody wants to play with it. The Vers WLR is the one I am considering looking at as well.
Attachments
Last edited by IPGregory on Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
centroid467 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:58 am
.....
Automatic detection of wireless probes is a nontrivial problem.
Depends on how it is achieved...
Very simple is a switch in the storing of the probe, if removed from storing the switch turns probe detect on.
Could also be used for a wired probe if you want to skip plugging in and out.
Uwe
I'll amend that to non-trivial from the perspective of someone designing such a system to sell to customers with widely varying machine configurations
Switch in the probe storage setup is a pretty good idea for manual tool changes and ATC systems that put things back in the same place every time. You'd have to all but dedicate that bin to the probe but that should not cause a problem for most users.
IPGregory wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:46 pm
I don't know if its pertinent and I haven't got there yet to test it, but I was planning to use a SW Detect with a wireless probe? Assign Probe to a tool #, Pick tool #, SW triggers the detect Input, select different tool #, SW releases the Input sort of thing? Not sure where I saw it, might have been this thread?
That is definitely something worth trying! The only real problems I can see with this idea are the lack of physical checks for where the probe is. If the tool bins/numbers get scrambled somehow and it isn't caught it time then there may be some probe crashes ahead.
Either one of those would work pretty well for Houseman303's Vers WLR probe.
