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CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive < resolved: user was running beta software, solution: update to release version>

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm
by Obsidian
I've had this recurring issue with CNC12 losing spindle control after running a program a few times. There are no drive faults or errors when this happens. I cannot manually turn the spindle on from the VCP or from MDI but I can enable the spindle If I go into the outputs page and manually force the VFD enable output. The only resolution for this issue is to power cycle acorn board. The interesting thing here is I still have axis control from the VCP and others like work lights and homing ect.

Any ideas?

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:34 pm
by Obsidian
I think I found the issue after monitoring the inputs/outputs page. Opening and closing the chuck output seems to fix the issue. There must be a problem with the chuck open close bit and vfd enable in the plc.


*Update*

There is an argument in the Standard spindle stage of the plc to check the status of a bit for the chuck open and close. For some reason the bit would not get set and would not allow VFD enable to be set. Not sure why this happens but omitting the bit check for ChuckOpenCloseComplete_M is a temporary solution. Not liable for throwing stock from your chuck :lol:

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:47 am
by martyscncgarage
Obsidian wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:34 pm I think I found the issue after monitoring the inputs/outputs page. Opening and closing the chuck output seems to fix the issue. There must be a problem with the chuck open close bit and vfd enable in the plc.


*Update*

There is an argument in the Standard spindle stage of the plc to check the status of a bit for the chuck open and close. For some reason the bit would not get set and would not allow VFD enable to be set. Not sure why this happens but omitting the bit check for ChuckOpenCloseComplete_M is a temporary solution. Not liable for throwing stock from your chuck :lol:
ALWAYS post a FRESH Report. Centroid DOES monitor these forums.
Do you have a hydraulic chuck you are opening and closing?

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:00 pm
by Obsidian
Yes this is a hydraulic chuck setup. I will to do some more investigating after I'm done with the current job I have on this machine.

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:09 pm
by cnckeith
please post a fresh report.zip when requesting support

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:46 pm
by Obsidian
I attached the wrong file in the original post.

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:24 am
by martyscncgarage
You wired all your outputs to Ether1616?
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Output Definitions
; Logic 1 = OUTPUT ON (Green), 0 = OUTPUT OFF (Red)
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------

; DO NOT MODIFY
; #wizardregion Outputs
OUTPUT1 IS OUT1
OUTPUT2 IS OUT2
OUTPUT3 IS OUT3
OUTPUT4 IS OUT4
OUTPUT5 IS OUT5
OUTPUT6 IS OUT6
OUTPUT7 IS OUT7
OUTPUT8 IS OUT8
ToolChangeComplete_O IS OUT34
TailStockRetract IS OUT35 ;Done
TailStockExtend IS OUT36 ;Done
CloseToolTurret IS OUT37
OpenToolTurret IS OUT38
OpenChuck IS OUT39 ;Done
CloseChuck IS OUT40 ;Done
VFDEnable_O IS OUT41 ;Done
VFDDirection_O IS OUT42 ;Done
VFDResetOut_O IS OUT43 ;Done
WorkLight IS OUT44
LubePump IS OUT46
Flood IS OUT47
HydraulicPump IS OUT48 ;Done

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:44 pm
by martyscncgarage
Just looked at your report.
You are running on a BETA version of software (How did you get that? Are you a Beta Tester?)
=========================================================================
Reported Generated: Tue Jul 20 13:44:21 2021
MPU12 serial number: 780473A92571-0930192501
License: ACORN PRO
Version: CNC12 Lathe v4.59 BETA, Rev 6
URL: /cnc11/branches/acorn R11800 clean
Nov 19 2020, 09:54:09

You need to upgrade to 4.64 as noted from Centroid Support Staff:
Update.jpg
Marty

Re: CNC12 Spindle becomes unresponsive < resolved: user was running beta software, solution: update to release version>

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:05 pm
by cnckeith
Latest supported released version of Acorn CNC12 is here.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... loads.html