Shuttle Express & Feed Hold problems

[Chris D]

Good morning all,

I am having problems with the Shuttle Express and the Feed Hold Button (along with a few other things too but saving that for a different discussion).

I recently added physical Cycle start and Feed Hold buttons, configured both with the Wizard, verified both switches work by looking at the I/O screen. The cycle start button works as expected (although I do not think the VCP button works anymore). The Feed Hold button does not work in either location, physical button or VCP. I have done NO DIRECT PLC EDITING, only changes using the wizard.

I have a shuttle express on the machine and that was working fine up until recently. It still works fine to jog etc, however, when I turn it off and try to do anything else with the Acorn control, I get a error complaining about a "tool file open" or similar alarm. Sorry, I didn't write it down, if needed I can provide the exact wording. When that error comes up, I can't find a way to clear the error so I can use the control so I have to exit CNC12 and restart it every time I use the Shuttle Express. My best guess is that this problem came up after I added the Cycle Start and Feed Hold buttons as that is when I noticed the problem.

Attached is the report file (I hope)
Any help would be appreciated.

Chris D

[cncsnw]

Does your external feed hold button have a normally-open contact, or a normally-closed contact?

The standard PLC logic for "FeedHold2" requires a normally-open contact (on the Alt-i screen it should be red when idle, green when the button is pressed). If you have a normally-closed contact (as is commonly supplied with red buttons) you can invert the input using Ctrl-Alt-i.

[Chris D]

Does your external feed hold button have a normally-open contact, or a normally-closed contact?

The standard PLC logic for "FeedHold2" requires a normally-open contact (on the Alt-i screen it should be red when idle, green when the button is pressed). If you have a normally-closed contact (as is commonly supplied with red buttons) you can invert the input using Ctrl-Alt-i.

The Feed Hold button is wired the same and configured the same as the Cycle Start button which works. The I/O monitor also indicates that they are operating the same.

Thanks for the suggestion though!

Chris

[cnckeith]

hi thanks for posting the report.zip. the error log shows limit switch tripped and probe tripped messages.

1) 04-24-2021 13:45:31 407 Z+ limit (#50004) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 13:45:33 407 Y- limit (#50003) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 13:45:36 407 X- limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 04-24-2021 13:46:57 9033 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(4) 04-24-2021 13:47:54 4032 Reset Cleared
(1) 04-24-2021 14:00:19 407 Z+ limit (#50004) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:00:22 407 Y- limit (#50003) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:00:24 407 X- limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:00:38 407 Z+ limit (#50004) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:00:41 407 Y- limit (#50003) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:00:43 407 X- limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:19:38 407 Z+ limit (#50004) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:19:40 407 Y- limit (#50003) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 14:19:43 407 X- limit (#50002) tripped
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:52 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:52 9042 Probe Cleared
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:52 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:52 9042 Probe Cleared
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:53 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:53 9042 Probe Cleared
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:54 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:54 9042 Probe Cleared
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:54 8040 WARNING: PROBE TRIPPED
(4) 04-24-2021 14:32:54 9042 Probe Cleared
(1) 04-24-2021 17:01:34 407 Z+ limit (#50004) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 17:01:36 407 Y- limit (#50003) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 17:01:38 407 X- limit (#50002) tripped
(1) 04-24-2021 17:05:35 204 Exiting CNC...Normal Exit (66)
(1) 04-25-2021 5:18:22 199 CNC Started
(1) 04-25-2021 5:18:27 CNC12 Acorn Mill v4.64
(4) 04-25-2021 5:18:27 9033 Reset Initiated, Press Reset to Clear
(4) 04-25-2021 5:18:31 4032 Reset Cleared
(1) 04-25-2021 5:18:54 Creating report...

[Chris D]

Hi Keith, thanks for responding.

I suppose that is correct, I am configuring and setting up the machine so there are lot's of things that have happened during that time frame. What were you expecting to see? Should I get the machine into the condition where that alarm is showing and then do the report at that moment? If the machine is in that state, I may not be able to do anything without exiting and restarting the software.

Chris

[Chris D]

Here is a photo of the screen with the Error on it...



https://photos.app.goo.gl/4cjGAZL7nX92csYq7


Not sure if this link is working or not - I got the link by selecting Share from my Google Photos library.


Chris D

[cnckeith]

looks like files got moved or corruption issues etc...

the error message is saying it can't find the g code file, was it on a usb drive? if so, always copy from usb drive to cncm\ncfiles then load the file.

[Chris D]

CNC programs were copied to the cncm\ncfiles directory from a USB. Offset and Tool libraries files have not been copied, moved, edited or otherwise touched by me outside of the CNC 12 software.

Could it be that I am using the shuttle incorrectly? Am I suppose to turn it off after making my jog moves and before doing anything else with the CNC12 software?

[martyscncgarage]

You found this video correct?:

Document:
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... Xpress.pdf

Are you modifying the personality file trying to do something else?

PLEASE post a FRESH report as well.

[Chris D]

You found this video correct?:
Are you modifying the personality file trying to do something else?

PLEASE post a FRESH report as well.

Yes I watched the video and read the document and I had the shuttle express working fine. I don't even know what the "personality file" is or where I could find it - so no, I did not edit it. I have been in and out of the Wizard dozens of times and I have done extensive work with the VCP files and macros etc.

I obviously messed up a couple of things: Feed Hold not working at all and the file open issue after the usage of the shuttle express.

I will ask the question again, should I get the machine into a state where those alarms are on screen then do the report or just run another report? Running a Fresh report at this time will probably just show more of the errors and faults as was in the last report.

Thanks for diving in, I really appreciate the help!

Chris