New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

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New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by martyscncgarage »

Getting my feet wet with Clear Path SDSK servos. Using the C86ACCP from CNC4PC.COM

Overview/Unboxing:
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by carboncymbal »

Awesome! Cant wait to see your progress and see if you run into any of the issues that seem to be commonly reported for Acorn and Clearpath builds.
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by martyscncgarage »

carboncymbal wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:41 pm Awesome! Cant wait to see your progress and see if you run into any of the issues that seem to be commonly reported for Acorn and Clearpath builds.
Part of my reasoning to "take one for the team" and tear down a finished conversion.

Marty
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by carboncymbal »

martyscncgarage wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:56 pm
carboncymbal wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:41 pm Awesome! Cant wait to see your progress and see if you run into any of the issues that seem to be commonly reported for Acorn and Clearpath builds.
Part of my reasoning to "take one for the team" and tear down a finished conversion.

Marty
We that is much appreciated! I think if anyone can provide insight it is you.
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by martyscncgarage »

In this video, I setup Acorn, CNC4PC.COM C86ACCP and my Clearpath SDSK motors and accessories.
Clearly using C86ACCP simplifies everything greatly. Teknic Engineers reviewed C86ACCP design schematics and cleared it for use without resistors that have been discussed on the forum. There are a few discussions still going on between Centroid and Teknic. But its been a good collaboration so far between the three companies. Its an effort to simplify the integration of SDSK/SDHP motors with Centroid Acorn.

CNC4PC.COM is designing a companion board that will provide terminals to land individual wires from a cut Clearpath Cable if you don't want to try and install a Minifit Jr. connector to mate up with the C86ACCP.

C86ACCP handles all the HLFB signals from the motors, so no need for an external relay board, it also handles the drive fault signal using a dry contact relay. It uses the standard 24VDC supplied from the Acorn power supply. In my opinion this is the best way to go when using Clearpath with Acorn and for now, using Clearpath's 10' cables and soon any length cable with cut ends. I will keep you all posted here.

I did release an updated video on setting up the Windows 10 PC and the required basic bench test with Acorn only. Centroid also released their own video a few months back here are links to Centroid and my video:

Centroid's Bench Test Video:


My Bench Test Video (also testing spindle analog output):


Clearpath Bench Test Video:
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by cnckeith »

nice job as always Marty! Thanks for taking the time and sharing, this information will help alot of users.

wanted to echo Marc's suggestion to Setup Windows systems to show, rather than hide, file extensions.

By default, Windows hides file extensions for "known file types". With that default setting, you might think you are renaming "test" to "test.cnc", but in fact you are renaming "test.txt" to "test.cnc.txt".

simple procedure, here it is:

Press the Start menu key. In the entry box, type "File Explorer Options", the click on the Control Panel component which appears in response to that search.

In the resulting "File Explorer Options" dialog box, click on the second tab, "View".

In the lower part of the View tab, under "Advanced settings", scroll down in the list until you see "Hide extensions for known file types". Uncheck the box next to that option. Click "Ok".

Now you should have an easier time telling what your files are really named.
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by carboncymbal »

Interesting that they don’t require resistors on this yet they do normally. Can anyone explain why that would be?
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by martyscncgarage »

In collaboration, Teknic, Centroid, and CNC4PC took a closer look at the issue. CNC4PC had already built resistors on the current C86ACCP.
Teknic Engineers reviewed the design and said it was sufficient. Centroid is supportive. Problem should be solved.

I have encouraged CNC4PC to either create a board or modify their board with terminal blocks in order to land individual wires, when a user has to cut the Clearpath cables. They are working on this now. I'll share more as it is available.

C86ACCP, eliminates needing the really board to handle HLFB signals and a relay with dry contacts to handle the drive fault signal.

Marty
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by Gary Campbell »

Marty...
Even tho I have the branded Molex crimper for Mini fit Jr connectors, sign me up for the terminal version
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Re: New Build: SYIL X4 CNC Mill, Clearpath SDSK, C86ACCP & Centroid Acorn

Post by martyscncgarage »

Gary Campbell wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:38 am Marty...
Even tho I have the branded Molex crimper for Mini fit Jr connectors, sign me up for the terminal version
I'll let you all know what shakes out...
Marty
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