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Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:40 pm
by b_laauwen
Hi all. I am starting conversion of an optiturn 2506v lathe. I have most of the items on order now. I am having some trouble working out what speed controller to use for the spindle. Has anyone else done a conversion of this machine on here.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:27 pm
by martyscncgarage
b_laauwen wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:40 pm Hi all. I am starting conversion of an optiturn 2506v lathe. I have most of the items on order now. I am having some trouble working out what speed controller to use for the spindle. Has anyone else done a conversion of this machine on here.

Thanks in advance.
Please provide details of the machine. Pictures of the current spindle drive, what it is, link to a manual.
The more info you provide, the better the chance of getting responses.

Good luck with your project.
Marty

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:38 am
by b_laauwen
Thanks Marty. I shall do that as soon as i get delivery of the lathe. Its currently on backorder.

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:12 am
by b_laauwen
Well finally my lathe arrived. Now to work out what can be done to have the acorn control spindle.
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Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:58 pm
by b_laauwen
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Please provide details of the machine. Pictures of the current speed drive, what it is, link to a manual.
The more info you provide, the better the chance of getting responses.

Good luck with your project.
Marty
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Hi again. Been doing some research and I am leaning towards the kbsi 240d to control the spindle, or is there an easier way to do this?

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:16 am
by martyscncgarage
Spindle controller looks like a knock off of a KB Electronics KBIC Control. Did you get documentation for it?
You are going to need a KBSI240D at the very least. You need the isolation. Look up the KB120 schematic set in the Acorn Package.
The KBSI240D is not difficult to setup. Follow the directions. BUT you need your documentation. DO NOT expect to retain any original Speed Pots. Let CNC12 control the spindle speed.

If you find the equivalent KB Electronics controller, I would probably use it. Honestly, I personally go with a 3 phase motor and a VFD.....

Buy a good spindle encoder as well if you want to do CSS, rigid tap and threading. 1000line is fine. I have had good luck with those from Automationdirect.com
You want 5VDC Line Driver/Differential. If you can use the cable that comes with it great. If you have to make an extension, use the PROPER type cable.

Marty

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:22 am
by DICKEYBIRD
Hello b_laauwen,

If you're looking at using a KB speed control for your project, take a look at the KBCC-125R unit. It combines an "anti-plug" reversing relay", a heat Sink and dynamic braking resistor all in one package for 1.5 HP (120v) and 3.0 HP (240v) PM or shunt wound DC motors. I have 2 of I got off ebay for cheap and they're great. I have the KBSI-240D's isolators on both Acorn installations as well.

Here's a thread that has some info if your interested in trying one of them: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1594&hilit=kbcc+125r+SCHEMATIC

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:44 pm
by martyscncgarage
DICKEYBIRD wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:22 am Hello b_laauwen,

If you're looking at using a KB speed control for your project, take a look at the KBCC-125R unit. It combines an "anti-plug" reversing relay", a heat Sink and dynamic braking resistor all in one package for 1.5 HP (120v) and 3.0 HP (240v) PM or shunt wound DC motors. I have 2 of I got off ebay for cheap and they're great. I have the KBSI-240D's isolators on both Acorn installations as well.

Here's a thread that has some info if your interested in trying one of them: viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1594&hilit=kbcc+125r+SCHEMATIC
He's BAAaack!
Good to see you back Dickeybird!
He gives good advice. I'm not sure how good that Chinese knock off is.....

Marty

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:33 pm
by DICKEYBIRD
martyscncgarage wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:44 pm He's BAAaack!
Good to see you back Dickeybird!
I never left Marty; I just got distracted for a bit. ;) I had another stroke in February, recovered pretty well in a couple months, went back to work, got real busy there & busy at home making parts for my buddy's company. Between that, a bunch of doctor visits & life in general I haven't touched any fun Acorn stuff lately.

I've been keeping up with you guys on the forum every day though with the hope of staying in touch & getting back to where I left off on my ORAC pretty soon now. :D

Re: Optiturn 2506 conversion.

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:01 am
by b_laauwen
DICKEYBIRD wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:33 pm
martyscncgarage wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:44 pm He's BAAaack!
Good to see you back Dickeybird!
I never left Marty; I just got distracted for a bit. ;) I had another stroke in February, recovered pretty well in a couple months, went back to work, got real busy there & busy at home making parts for my buddy's company. Between that, a bunch of doctor visits & life in general I haven't touched any fun Acorn stuff lately.

I've been keeping up with you guys on the forum every day though with the hope of staying in touch & getting back to where I left off on my ORAC pretty soon now. :D
Glad to hear you recovered ok Dickeybird. I ordered the kbsi 240d to begin with. See how that goes for starters. If need be I will look at getting what you recommended.