I'm aware that I dont see the tools up like most but yet it works for me. Perhaps I need to change this approach however it will be good to get some more feedback please.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Ill just talk to myself ...
I assume if you do not home via a repeatable home switch, you need to reference the manual against a set measurement each time you restart it? My technique doesnt need rereferencing, the home switch gives me this ability. In other words, my tool offsets are set against a known and consistent reference point.
I assume if you do not home via a repeatable home switch, you need to reference the manual against a set measurement each time you restart it? My technique doesnt need rereferencing, the home switch gives me this ability. In other words, my tool offsets are set against a known and consistent reference point.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Chaz,
Please send a current report so I can what your setting are.
I am out of the office on vacation this week and only looking at e-mails in the morning.
Please send a current report so I can what your setting are.
I am out of the office on vacation this week and only looking at e-mails in the morning.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Report attached. Thanks.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Chaz,
You do not have part X zero set at the Center line of the spindle. Your origin shows that part X0.0 is set to the home position. Please follow the instructions in the manual for setting part X0.0 with the reference tool.
You do not have part X zero set at the Center line of the spindle. Your origin shows that part X0.0 is set to the home position. Please follow the instructions in the manual for setting part X0.0 with the reference tool.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Thanks. Will do over the weekend and report back.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Same result, X doesnt flip over.
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Can I confirm a few things.
Machine - Parameter 1, is 1? Or should this be 3?
Gang - Parameter enabled? Correct?
Tool 1, offset 9 (I have an 8 tool ATC) - I use Rear approach? What tool vector - 6 or 8?
What else do I need to do?
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Machine - Parameter 1, is 1? Or should this be 3?
Gang - Parameter enabled? Correct?
Tool 1, offset 9 (I have an 8 tool ATC) - I use Rear approach? What tool vector - 6 or 8?
What else do I need to do?
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Re: ATC + Manual Gang
Hello Chaz,
Gang - parameter enabled set to 1 correct
Tool 1 offset 9 - Rear approach with tool vector 6
Which WCS are you using? G54 - WCS 1
Looking at your last report for the X origin for WCS 1 - G54 it is different from the rest of the origins. For X they all should be the same.
Looking at the Z Origin they all are zero. Normally for the lathe Part Z0.0 is the end of the material. And this changes from part to part.
Also looking at your tool offset the X for tool 1 through 8 are 0. Tool 9 is 27.10781. Is tool 1 your reference tool? If so the other tools should have an offset in for X if they have been setup.
Just to make sure what is going on. For example we will assume the material is 25 MM diameter. IF you are using different size material use that size where I have 25 MM.
Once you have X0.0 set for the center line for all the origins go in to the Tool Library.
For the example you can set the Part Z0.0 the end of the material and in the Tool Library set Z Ref there also. So Z Ref would be 0.0
In the Tool Library (from the main screen F1 Setup - F2 Tool Offset) using your reference tool to set the X Diam at 25 MM with the tool against the material. Now you can measure all the tools in your 8 station tool changer (F2 Measure Tool) for X on the 25 MM diameter and Z on the face of the material.
Now for measuring the Gang tool change the X diam to -25. Then bring that tool against the material on the back side and measure the tool (F2) for X and the face of the material for Z.
After you have the tools setup (T0101 and T0109) would you be able to do the following MDI commands?
In MDI:
For tool 1 offset 1 -T0101
next do a X25. Make sure the tool is clear of the part for Z. Does the tool go to 25 MM?
Now jog clear and press Tool Check.
If you have measured any of the other tools in your ATC you change to them and do the same thing to make user they were measured correctly.
In MDI
For Tool 1 offset 9 - rear gang tool - T0109
Next do a X-25. Make sure the tool is clear of the part for Z. Does the tool go to the back side of the material at 25 MM? If not how far from the material is T0109?
Machine - Parameter 1 should be 1
Gang - parameter enabled set to 1 correct
Tool 1 offset 9 - Rear approach with tool vector 6
Which WCS are you using? G54 - WCS 1
Looking at your last report for the X origin for WCS 1 - G54 it is different from the rest of the origins. For X they all should be the same.
Looking at the Z Origin they all are zero. Normally for the lathe Part Z0.0 is the end of the material. And this changes from part to part.
Also looking at your tool offset the X for tool 1 through 8 are 0. Tool 9 is 27.10781. Is tool 1 your reference tool? If so the other tools should have an offset in for X if they have been setup.
Just to make sure what is going on. For example we will assume the material is 25 MM diameter. IF you are using different size material use that size where I have 25 MM.
Once you have X0.0 set for the center line for all the origins go in to the Tool Library.
For the example you can set the Part Z0.0 the end of the material and in the Tool Library set Z Ref there also. So Z Ref would be 0.0
In the Tool Library (from the main screen F1 Setup - F2 Tool Offset) using your reference tool to set the X Diam at 25 MM with the tool against the material. Now you can measure all the tools in your 8 station tool changer (F2 Measure Tool) for X on the 25 MM diameter and Z on the face of the material.
Now for measuring the Gang tool change the X diam to -25. Then bring that tool against the material on the back side and measure the tool (F2) for X and the face of the material for Z.
After you have the tools setup (T0101 and T0109) would you be able to do the following MDI commands?
In MDI:
For tool 1 offset 1 -T0101
next do a X25. Make sure the tool is clear of the part for Z. Does the tool go to 25 MM?
Now jog clear and press Tool Check.
If you have measured any of the other tools in your ATC you change to them and do the same thing to make user they were measured correctly.
In MDI
For Tool 1 offset 9 - rear gang tool - T0109
Next do a X-25. Make sure the tool is clear of the part for Z. Does the tool go to the back side of the material at 25 MM? If not how far from the material is T0109?
Dana
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