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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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great discussion, while we are on this topic, we do have a requirements document in the works: "Improved formatting capabilities for CNC12 M200 (and future m300 ) series m codes." Now would be a good time to get your related feature requests in!
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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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and we fixed this issue this morning so the fix will be in v5.22 hopefully will be released soon!
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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

Post by suntravel »

corbin wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:50 pm ......

So, here's my tool change scenario where it does make sense:

1. Temporary message telling the user a Tool Change is happening from Tool X to Y
2. If no user input is required (pure ATC), then the message stays up for 3 seconds and disappears.
3. If the user has to do something, such as manually remove or insert a tool that isn't in the rack, I want to prompt them with M200.

.....

Corbin
I think you are overcomplicating things...

IMHO after decades of CNC with ATC in my job, I never needed a message if the machines are changing tools.

I simply set them up with all tools for the job and let them do its thing till the part is finished, or with automatic material feed till a tool livetime is over. In this case a stopping the job, message to insert a new tool is all I need to go on.

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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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cnckeith wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:03 pm and we fixed this issue this morning so the fix will be in v5.22 hopefully will be released soon!
That is what I expected, you are faster than Rentokil with bugs :mrgreen:

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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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Will you be removing the dependency between M200 and the M0 Jogging option?


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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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cncsnw wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm Will you be removing the dependency between M200 and the M0 Jogging option?
details please, any good suggestion will get worked on!
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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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Write a program or macro that includes a line like:

Code: Select all

M200 "Insert tool and press Cycle Start"
Run that program with P10 = 32.

Then run that same program with P10 = 0.

Do you notice the difference?

I propose that M200 should display the specified message (and also wait indefinitely for Cycle Start) regardless of the value of P10.


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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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cnckeith wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:11 pm great discussion, while we are on this topic, we do have a requirements document in the works: "Improved formatting capabilities for CNC12 M200 (and future m300 ) series m codes." Now would be a good time to get your related feature requests in!
Keith,

What do you think of adding support for buttons in a popup dialog? Having to use the keyboard (even the slide-up keyboard on the touch screen) to select an option is cumbersome. It would be nice to have buttons much like the VCP to select from the options in the dialog. There is no enter a number, and then the enter key, you just tap the button on the touch screen for the option you want. I hope that makes sense.


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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

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cnckeith wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:03 pm and we fixed this issue this morning so the fix will be in v5.22 hopefully will be released soon!
Great, thanks!


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Re: M200 prompts sometimes disappear

Post by corbin »

suntravel wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm I think you are overcomplicating things...

IMHO after decades of CNC with ATC in my job, I never needed a message if the machines are changing tools.
I agree -- experienced CNC operators don't need much to make the machine do what they want to do.

I'm trying to make it more user friendly, particularly for hobbyists. I also just like writing software..

Corbin


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