Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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tblough wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:43 am !f the shaft size is 15.87mm, then those are 5/8" Imperial sized shafts.
If that's the case, then they are most likely standard NEMA 42 motors (which I might expect it being a Bridgeport)
AC servo motors are more efficient and have a pretty even torque curve. I have simply reused the existing pulleys on my retrofits to keep things easy.

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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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martyscncgarage wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:52 am
tblough wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:43 am !f the shaft size is 15.87mm, then those are 5/8" Imperial sized shafts.
If that's the case, then they are most likely standard NEMA 42 motors (which I might expect it being a Bridgeport)
AC servo motors are more efficient and have a pretty even torque curve. I have simply reused the existing pulleys on my retrofits to keep things easy.

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Thanks, so look for Nema 42 sized AC servos?


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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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Chaz wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:00 am
martyscncgarage wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:52 am
tblough wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:43 am !f the shaft size is 15.87mm, then those are 5/8" Imperial sized shafts.
If that's the case, then they are most likely standard NEMA 42 motors (which I might expect it being a Bridgeport)
AC servo motors are more efficient and have a pretty even torque curve. I have simply reused the existing pulleys on my retrofits to keep things easy.

Marty
Thanks, so look for Nema 42 sized AC servos?
IF that's the direction you want to go, new servos and drives. Double check your current motor's measurements.
Can you provide picture and nameplate of your current DC servos? They in need are smooth 5/8" shaft? Length?
You can give DMM a call with those dimensions and information and they will match them up for you.
You can drive DYN4 with Acorn. Buy their ready made DYN4 to Acorn Cables.

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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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Some pics below. The motor specs indicate its a 0.63 KW 2 NM motor. Nothing special, a 0.75 KW Servo will easily do the required job. The mounting and pulleys is the more interesting bits.
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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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Offloading was a pain without a forklift, managed to pull it down on a pallet truck. Motor specs in the pics below.
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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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In terms of shafts, yes 5/8th of an inch, smooth (the pulley has some form of compression system) and around 55mm long, much longer than most shafts.


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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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That machine looks very clean. Appears little used? Rigid ram. Good heavy machine.

I would consider the All in One DC provided you can replace the encoders and the motors check out.

Like I said earlier, run with the original spindle motor with an inexpensive VFD for awhile. I think you'll likely be pleased.
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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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martyscncgarage wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:28 pm That machine looks very clean. Appears little used? Rigid ram. Good heavy machine.

I would consider the All in One DC provided you can replace the encoders and the motors check out.

Like I said earlier, run with the original spindle motor with an inexpensive VFD for awhile. I think you'll likely be pleased.
The machine is very clean. The previous owner had started to clean / repaint the main body, I'd probably continue this for the rest. We did scratch the paint a bit so needs to be touched up (when we offloaded).

The problem with the All in One is the price. I can get Centroid, 3 new servos and be left with a significant amount of change.

Ill speak to him about the encoders, not sure why the confusion. I'm not complaining, I didnt pay a lot for the machine and I think selling the spares (motors / encoders) would probably make me cost neutral by the time this is all done.


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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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Let me know what you want for the motors provided they are clean and ok....
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Re: Bridgeport Series 1 MDI Conversion

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Chaz wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:57 am In terms of shafts, yes 5/8th of an inch, smooth (the pulley has some form of compression system) and around 55mm long, much longer than most shafts.
You can find some more information about your existing motors in the attached document.
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