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CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:24 pm
by Houseman303
I have a lot of trouble with the procedure in the tool setup because I have worked with Fanuc, Heidenhain and Siemens controls. I got it to work, but it's neither logical nor intuitive.

I have worked with external tool measuring machines as well as with internal tool measuring devices.

Z reference was always the spindle nose without tool holder.
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Z reference should now have been -229.1009 (G53), but -113.2923 was saved as a reference.

I also see the fact that the length value of a tool is only active when you call up G43 H and the tool number via mdi as a mistake.
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Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:48 pm
by suntravel
I have P#3 = 6 (Z ref=Z home and keeps H active after setup a tool)

Tool setup with a Z Finder, easy and fast.

Fanuc or Siemens are not a bit faster in setting up tools ;)

Uwe

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:55 am
by Houseman303
Danke Uwe. ;)

im testing this.

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:31 pm
by suntravel
Since there are often questions about this, I will make a video how it works for me...

Uwe

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:04 am
by suntravel

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 am
by Houseman303
This is not the best nor the most logical way to measure tools. I prefer the method, tool spindle is empty reference. Each tool is now longer than the reference and a plus value. This has the advantage that you can check the length of each tool with a depth gauge. This method works in CNC12 and also in the Probe app. In CNC 12, however, the reference length is displayed incorrectly, but it works.

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:13 am
by suntravel
Houseman303 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 am This is not the best nor the most logical way to measure tools. I prefer the method, tool spindle is empty reference. Each tool is now longer than the reference and a plus value. This has the advantage that you can check the length of each tool with a depth gauge. This method works in CNC12 and also in the Probe app. In CNC 12, however, the reference length is displayed incorrectly, but it works.
This works with HSK toolholders, but not so precise with BT or SK style tool holding...

Uwe

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:22 am
by Houseman303
suntravel wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:13 am
Houseman303 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 am This is not the best nor the most logical way to measure tools. I prefer the method, tool spindle is empty reference. Each tool is now longer than the reference and a plus value. This has the advantage that you can check the length of each tool with a depth gauge. This method works in CNC12 and also in the Probe app. In CNC 12, however, the reference length is displayed incorrectly, but it works.
This works with HSK toolholders, but not so precise with BT or SK style tool holding...

Uwe
never had any problems with Sk30, iso30, Sk40 or Sk50. The tool presetting device is no different.

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:37 pm
by cnckeith
Houseman303 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:08 am This is not the best nor the most logical way to measure tools. I prefer the method, tool spindle is empty reference. Each tool is now longer than the reference and a plus value. This has the advantage that you can check the length of each tool with a depth gauge. This method works in CNC12 and also in the Probe app. In CNC 12, however, the reference length is displayed incorrectly, but it works.
the reference length is displayed incorrectly ? please explain what you mean by this.

using the reference tool method.
reference tool Height offset = 0


are you mixing methods and creating your own? :-)

Re: CNC12 TOOL SETUP

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:05 pm
by Houseman303
reference tool Height offset = 0
before measuring, but freshly referenced
before measuring, but freshly referenced
after measuring
after measuring
correct is in the Probeapp
correct is in the Probeapp