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Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:32 am
by Rolquin
Hi Guys I know there is a lot of information about this topic. I read the minimum requirements and computer specification to run the Centroid software. I could notice you recommended the Intel NUC series and some Gigabyte motherboards.

Have you ever tried the Gigabyte Brix series ?
Would you provide some advice on these type of computers ?

Im thinking about using the Intel 6th Gen Core i5-6200U , 8GB for Ram, SSD 120 GB.

Thanks.

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:42 pm
by cncman172
Look up the i5-6200u processor on their cpu list and look at single thread performance. I am not close to my machine right now but I have a i5 processor and it works great.

Russ

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:44 am
by martyscncgarage
Rolquin wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:32 am Hi Guys I know there is a lot of information about this topic. I read the minimum requirements and computer specification to run the Centroid software. I could notice you recommended the Intel NUC series and some Gigabyte motherboards.

Have you ever tried the Gigabyte Brix series ?
Would you provide some advice on these type of computers ?

Im thinking about using the Intel 6th Gen Core i5-6200U , 8GB for Ram, SSD 120 GB.

Thanks.
Mostly about CPU speed. I have CNC12 running on Celeron 2,9GHZ, Pentium 2.9GHZ, i3 and i5....
Marty

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:57 am
by bloomingtonmike
My brix works fine on the bench.

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 am
by 762x51
The i5-6200U single thread rating is 1499 and Centroid recommends 1500.
I've also read, somewhere in the forum, that as low as around 1300 is OK so I guess the i5-6200U will work.

You can look up the CPU's info here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:24 am
by Commotion
i just checked the old PC i have installed centroid on and it has a single core score of 1356 so i guess i will see how it goes.

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:56 am
by 762x51
I found the thread where the minimum single thread benchmark was answered by Centroid here:

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1042&p=5544&hilit= ... read#p5544

Note that Centroid_Liviu mentioned that if you use a PC with a CPU with a single thread benchmark of 1250 then you'll need a SSD (solid state hard drive) in the PC
Centroid_Liviu wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:11 pm
Bravin Neff wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:50 am
cnckeith wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:54 pm anything above 1000 single thread with SSD as c: will work just fine as long as its a clean windows 10 install, and you don't plan on doing any short vector Gcode smoothing for high speed 3D machining...
Can you expand on this? You seem to be suggesting the PC's single thread benchmark is directly related to how well the Acorn will do 3D surfacing work. This is the kind of work I am planning on doing so naturally this caught my attention. Thank you.

Regards,
Bravin Neff
It is not directly related as there are many factors. We give the 1500 minimum to assure that the CPU is not a bottleneck even with Windows doing other things. A correctly set-up Windows environment (with a solid state hard drive) can perform even at 1250 with no bottleneck (the caveat being it must remain setup that way, no installing a bunch of other bloatware on top of it). The lower you go though, the more chance something will come up. Windows itself is a constantly evolving environment. It might work great today, but tomorrow it decides to run some self diagnostic at the same time as your program is running. We give the minimum CPU score to give you overhead over anything like that.

A score of 1500 and even 1250 is not a huge score for today's technology. I understand wanting to keep costs down as much as possible, but a few more dollars spend and you can save yourself a world of hassles down the road.

Re: Gigabyte Brix Mini PCs

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:36 am
by martyscncgarage
762x51 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:56 am I found the thread where the minimum single thread benchmark was answered by Centroid here:

viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1042&p=5544&hilit= ... read#p5544

Note that Centroid_Liviu mentioned that if you use a PC with a CPU with a single thread benchmark of 1250 then you'll need a SSD (solid state hard drive) in the PC
Centroid_Liviu wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:11 pm
Bravin Neff wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:50 am

Can you expand on this? You seem to be suggesting the PC's single thread benchmark is directly related to how well the Acorn will do 3D surfacing work. This is the kind of work I am planning on doing so naturally this caught my attention. Thank you.

Regards,
Bravin Neff
It is not directly related as there are many factors. We give the 1500 minimum to assure that the CPU is not a bottleneck even with Windows doing other things. A correctly set-up Windows environment (with a solid state hard drive) can perform even at 1250 with no bottleneck (the caveat being it must remain setup that way, no installing a bunch of other bloatware on top of it). The lower you go though, the more chance something will come up. Windows itself is a constantly evolving environment. It might work great today, but tomorrow it decides to run some self diagnostic at the same time as your program is running. We give the minimum CPU score to give you overhead over anything like that.

A score of 1500 and even 1250 is not a huge score for today's technology. I understand wanting to keep costs down as much as possible, but a few more dollars spend and you can save yourself a world of hassles down the road.
Speaking from experience, I would put a 120+ GB SSD in all PC's.
They can be found for well under $100, sometimes in the $50-$70 range for the Samsung or Intel recommended IDE drives.
Samsung has a tool called Magician that comes or you can download for most of their SSD's and will clone the mechanical hard drive to it. However, you need a USB/SATA cable to do it. Cheap enough. Most external USB to SATA enclosures work. That's what I use